Long trip on my 05 RX330 1600+ miles
#16
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#17
Instructor
93 octane? Man, can't get that in the high desert southwest. 91 at most. Even higher elevations than where we are regular is at 85 octane. Just curious if any one on these long trips was hauling a Thule or other hard or soft luggage carrier, and what that does to gas mileage.
Regards
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#18
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Thread Starter
your car runs fine? no check engine light ? ever
93 octane? Man, can't get that in the high desert southwest. 91 at most. Even higher elevations than where we are regular is at 85 octane. Just curious if any one on these long trips was hauling a Thule or other hard or soft luggage carrier, and what that does to gas mileage.
Regards
Regards
#19
Instructor
uz214,
I always use 87 octane. Never had the occasion to use the 85 stuff as I come back "down" to 2500 ft and my Chevy knocks if I use that stuff and don't stay at altitude. I've had the car for a year and no CEL (knock on wood). Of course we're talking 05 rx330 I hope, and the owner's manual does say 87 minimum. I have had no engine ping either.
Regards
I always use 87 octane. Never had the occasion to use the 85 stuff as I come back "down" to 2500 ft and my Chevy knocks if I use that stuff and don't stay at altitude. I've had the car for a year and no CEL (knock on wood). Of course we're talking 05 rx330 I hope, and the owner's manual does say 87 minimum. I have had no engine ping either.
Regards
#20
Intermediate
uz214,
I always use 87 octane. Never had the occasion to use the 85 stuff as I come back "down" to 2500 ft and my Chevy knocks if I use that stuff and don't stay at altitude. I've had the car for a year and no CEL (knock on wood). Of course we're talking 05 rx330 I hope, and the owner's manual does say 87 minimum. I have had no engine ping either.
Regards
I always use 87 octane. Never had the occasion to use the 85 stuff as I come back "down" to 2500 ft and my Chevy knocks if I use that stuff and don't stay at altitude. I've had the car for a year and no CEL (knock on wood). Of course we're talking 05 rx330 I hope, and the owner's manual does say 87 minimum. I have had no engine ping either.
Regards
#21
Lexus Champion
I have learned re;this octane stuff,that you are basically de-tuning the engine on 87.(I know I`ll start something here)But I am trying to run mostly 87 due to the out rages fuel prices.But my millage dropped 1-1.5 mpg and the highway performance is for sure not the same.So I look at this as down tuning the motor.Even the 01 RX like I have is a 10.5 to one compression engine.
#22
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I have learned re;this octane stuff,that you are basically de-tuning the engine on 87.(I know I`ll start something here)But I am trying to run mostly 87 due to the out rages fuel prices.But my millage dropped 1-1.5 mpg and the highway performance is for sure not the same.So I look at this as down tuning the motor.Even the 01 RX like I have is a 10.5 to one compression engine.
#23
Lexus Champion
We've noticed a distinct difference in performance if we use regular fuel v. premium, and also a difference in mileage on our 05 (32k miles now). We live almost at sea level plus maybe about 100 feet, and if we run with 93 octane, we can easily pull 25 MPG + on extended freeway type driving (our last trip to Seattle and return, about 200 miles, was 25.2 MPG and I do not drive gently). When we did our tour of the Western states a couple of years ago, we experienced all manner of conditions, including sea level to 12k feet (a couple of the Colorado mountain passes), high winds, heat, rain, and some snow. Using premium fuel we averaged almost 24 MPG for the entire 4,600 mile trip, many times cruising at 80+. Given the improved mileage and performance, we pretty well stick to premium for our RX, our IS requires it.
#24
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Lexus 114, I, for one, have never doubted that the higher octane improved both the RX performance and mileage. Our 2000 RX 300 would run far better on 93 than it ever did on 87. When we purchased our 05, once broken in, the difference in performance, granted a subjective judgment, was quite obvious to me, especially since we regularly traveled over mountain passes here in the NW Washington state. Prior to my Mother passing this last January, we were running Stevens Pass every other week for visits with her. Round trip was 400+ miles and the few times we put 87 octane in the RX, it was notably sluggish when trying to pass, and would down shift much sooner. We also noted a drop of approximately 1.5 to 2 MPG running regular, and I track my mileage closely. That was enough to convince me that a for a few “pennies” more, I think we break even with the improved mileage. The 4,600 trip really capped it though as when we were driving from Phoenix to Palm Springs, we bucked some really bad head winds, and saw mileage drop to 16 for a good part of that drive. If we’d managed to avoid the winds, I expect that the total MPG for the trip would have been far closer to 25.
Last edited by Orzel; 07-16-08 at 01:40 PM. Reason: fingers faster than brain!
#25
Intermediate
Lexus 114, I, for one, have never doubted that the higher octane improved both the RX performance and mileage. Our 2000 RX 300 would run far better on 93 than it ever did on 87. When we purchased our 05, once broken in, the difference in performance, granted a subjective judgment, was quite obvious to me, especially since we regularly traveled over mountain passes here in the NW Washington state. Prior to my Mother passing this last January, we were running Stevens Pass every other week for visits with her. Round trip was 400+ miles and the few times we put 87 octane in the RX, it was notably sluggish when trying to pass, and would down shift much sooner. We also noted a drop of approximately 1.5 to 2 MPG running regular, and I track my mileage closely. That was enough to convince me that a for a few “pennies” more, I think we break even with the improved mileage. The 4,600 trip really capped it though as when we were driving from Phoenix to Palm Springs, we bucked some really bad head winds, and saw mileage drop to 16 for a good part of that drive. If we’d managed to avoid the winds, I expect that the total MPG for the trip would have been far closer to 25.
Not only it is better for overall engine-transmission performance and longevity, but also simple math proves that makes sense economically to run 93 vs. 87.
2 mpg improvement with 93 gasoline that will offer about 25mpg average comes as 6%-8% improvement. The price difference between 87 and 93 is typically $0.20 and on $4.45 per gallon of 93 (Chicago area!) it comes to about 4.5% price increase.
So, it is cheaper to run 93.
#26
Lexus Champion
You guy`s are awsome! I have been kicking this Idea around since the price of fuel reached $4.00 a gallon.I probably seem like a fence sitter,but it`s not an easy decision to make on your own sometimes.Especially when you see/read that most of the RX owners use 87.(trust me I know to each their own)I really don`t want to start anything with this because I know people are tired of hearing about it.Thank you very much for your input on this whole thing....
#27
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You guy`s are awsome! I have been kicking this Idea around since the price of fuel reached $4.00 a gallon.I probably seem like a fence sitter,but it`s not an easy decision to make on your own sometimes.Especially when you see/read that most of the RX owners use 87.(trust me I know to each their own)I really don`t want to start anything with this because I know people are tired of hearing about it.Thank you very much for your input on this whole thing....
#28
I'M JEALOUS.
Not that almost everyone is getting 25+ MPG, but that your seats are comfortable enough for those long trips. I'm also surprised that the larger 350 get better mileage. My 330 gets 25/26 at a steady 65, but the seats limit our trips to 100 miles. After that we need to stop, get out and walk around to get the circulation back. Both driver and passenger. I even put a 1" foam pad on both seats. It helped, but not a lot.
Not that almost everyone is getting 25+ MPG, but that your seats are comfortable enough for those long trips. I'm also surprised that the larger 350 get better mileage. My 330 gets 25/26 at a steady 65, but the seats limit our trips to 100 miles. After that we need to stop, get out and walk around to get the circulation back. Both driver and passenger. I even put a 1" foam pad on both seats. It helped, but not a lot.
#29
Lexus Champion
I'M JEALOUS.
Not that almost everyone is getting 25+ MPG, but that your seats are comfortable enough for those long trips. I'm also surprised that the larger 350 get better mileage. My 330 gets 25/26 at a steady 65, but the seats limit our trips to 100 miles. After that we need to stop, get out and walk around to get the circulation back. Both driver and passenger. I even put a 1" foam pad on both seats. It helped, but not a lot.
Not that almost everyone is getting 25+ MPG, but that your seats are comfortable enough for those long trips. I'm also surprised that the larger 350 get better mileage. My 330 gets 25/26 at a steady 65, but the seats limit our trips to 100 miles. After that we need to stop, get out and walk around to get the circulation back. Both driver and passenger. I even put a 1" foam pad on both seats. It helped, but not a lot.
#30
Moderator
If you can't sit in an RX for more than an hour, then either the seat or your *** needs an adjustment. I admit that it took some fiddling around with the seat settings when I first got it, but after a while I found a good setting and find the seats very comfortable, and have enjoyed trips of up to 8 hours. I think it's a very comfortable car for long drives.
PS: I think a foam pad would be counterproductive. You want a firm, supportive seat, adjusted to fit to your back. A foam cushion, I would think, would be less comfortable, and may be the reason for circulatory problems (although I am not a doctor (any more)).
PS: I think a foam pad would be counterproductive. You want a firm, supportive seat, adjusted to fit to your back. A foam cushion, I would think, would be less comfortable, and may be the reason for circulatory problems (although I am not a doctor (any more)).
Last edited by tfischer; 07-18-08 at 08:14 AM. Reason: Added helpful PS