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cool. BUT...

I hate all those whiners who 'need' to have a 3251235132" NAV display for a region they have been living in for most of their lives, a premium sound system out of the factory, even though the cheapest aftermarket stuff will sound much better, etc. etc...

As you can see, what im getting at, is that there is no need to get horny about all these trinkets, sure the new Highlander may present a better value, go nuts!

However, i personally do not like more complicated stuff. I am not a simple person, but one who does not need all this junk [just like 95% of those on the roads currently!] seriously, who needs a premium sound system to drive to work for 10 min. ?? I mean come on...

One thing to bear in mind, which was posted a few posts above, is the idea of a 'first year model' the problem is that alone, as well as, how RELIABLE is all this junk in these cars nowadays? The more electronic ***** they stuff in, the more potential problems in the future...

ggebhardt

I have found all this junk on the Lexus vehicles works quite well. If it did not Lexus will fix it under warranty. The Telematics of a vehicle are one of the joys of ownership for me. If you are "one who does not need all this junk" there are other brands that do not have it.

biff44

You are talking to two different crowds here. The first crowd is just leasing the car for 2 years, and even the most poorly made garbage can last that long. The other crowd will want the RX to last 6-10 years, and all those little electronic goodies and nav systems will either be obsolete or dead by then--so they do not value the goodies as much at all! BTW, I am with the 2nd group!

AlexusAnja

To those that can't see value in a Lexus, then why do you see value in a Toyota versus a Hyundai? I've driven the Sonata and Veracruz alot, and test drove the Genesis a few times and the Hyundais are very very good automobiles now. I think in terms of fit-n-finish interior, they're the same, if not better, than some base Toyotas. So, if you can't see the extra money going into a Lexus, then can you see the extra saving if you went down to a Hyundai?

triplecore

it doesn't matter how good a Hyundai is its for the Poor its the Walmart of cars because of the stigma. A Toyota is the norm like Sears and Lexus is upscale/norm like Macys. Mercedes is upscale/luxury - Saks or Lord and Taylor and Bentley and Rolls are Luxury - Bergdorf Goodman.

Hyundia - welfare/foodstamps/ normal
Toyota - norm
Lexus - upscale/normal (Move the brand up scale)
Mercedes - Upscale/Luxury (Mercedes should kill the C class its diluting their brand drivin by gangbangers and the wannabe rich.)


Sorry for all the retail comparisons its Christmas what can i say.

catdaddylo

Where would Cadilac, BMW, Porshe, Ford and Chevy be ?

Lex2000TL

Hyundia - welfare/foodstamps/ normal
Toyota - norm
Lexus - upscale/normal (Move the brand up scale)
Mercedes - Upscale/Luxury (Mercedes should kill the C class its diluting their brand drivin by gangbangers and the wannabe rich.)


Sorry for all the retail comparisons its Christmas what can i say.[/QUOTE]

One time I bumped into market research by well-known company about customers’ perception of different automotive brands. Not surprisingly, some brands had customers’ perception different from the one they’ve planned to seed.
Here is short list (not exact, but close to original):
Mercedes – prestige
BMW – performance
Lexus – luxury
Jaguar - style
Toyota – reliability, dull
Honda – reliability, sporty
Acura – better performance, quality
Hyundai – frugal, underdog
GM – strength

Interestingly that customers of luxury brands typically did not/do not care about reliability, as much as we think they would.

RXSF

lexus as macys? really? lol

if anything:

mercedes/bmw/lexus/jaguar= Saks, Neiman Marcus, Bloomingdales,Barneys

sama

Lexus - RX/IS/ES --> wannabe upscale and the wannabe rich

asianrage

Bull*****! You can say that about any similarly priced entry level models of any other specific Luxo-brands. I guess for you, being able to afford a low 40K, sub 50k car (RX350) means that I'm a low class **** wanna be rich...
GTFO!

Lexmex

We're going way off topic here