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Consumer Reports, for performance all season, gave Michelin Primacy MXV4[H] the only "excellent" ranking for noise in its category. For all season, Yokohama Avid Ascend was the only one rated "excellent" for noise.
For All Season Truck, "excellent" was given for Continental CrossContact LX20 EcoPlus, Michelin Latitude Tour, Michelin Latitude Tour HP, Hankook Dynapro HT, General General Grabber HTS, and Nokian HT Sport Utility . Note the Nokian scored "poor" (the lowest possible) for snow traction and ice braking.
For All Season Truck, "excellent" was given for Continental CrossContact LX20 EcoPlus, Michelin Latitude Tour, Michelin Latitude Tour HP, Hankook Dynapro HT, General General Grabber HTS, and Nokian HT Sport Utility . Note the Nokian scored "poor" (the lowest possible) for snow traction and ice braking.
http://www.michelinman.com/tire-sele...35/55/18/tires
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Thanks - I think Primacy is discontinued - according to Michelin there are only 3 tires in the stock size available - Latitude, Energy and Pilot.
http://www.michelinman.com/tire-sele...35/55/18/tires
http://www.michelinman.com/tire-sele...35/55/18/tires
Not a recommendation, just FWIW.
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If you go to the TireRack web site and pull up the tires available in 235/55-18 for the RX, you can look at the Survey results for each tire if there is sufficient data available for such.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSe...ting=S&tab=All
Within the Survey results you will see numerical values for Noise Comfort towards the end of that bar.
Though subjective, the Bridgestone Dueler H/L 422 Ecopia seems to have the highest rating for Noise Comfort. They are followed by the Yokohama Parada Spec-X, the Goodyear Assurance ComforTred Touring and then the Continental ExtremeContact DWS. There may be others which may be quieter that I missed or that do not have survey information available if the tire is too new or there is insufficient data to report.
FWIW. Have a look at the data yourself. To be honest, I think you would be quite happy with any of the first three I listed. Being that you are listed as in WV you might think about other characteristics for the tires you put on your vehicle. Perhaps how it does in snow or wet over how quiet the tire is.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSe...ting=S&tab=All
Within the Survey results you will see numerical values for Noise Comfort towards the end of that bar.
Though subjective, the Bridgestone Dueler H/L 422 Ecopia seems to have the highest rating for Noise Comfort. They are followed by the Yokohama Parada Spec-X, the Goodyear Assurance ComforTred Touring and then the Continental ExtremeContact DWS. There may be others which may be quieter that I missed or that do not have survey information available if the tire is too new or there is insufficient data to report.
FWIW. Have a look at the data yourself. To be honest, I think you would be quite happy with any of the first three I listed. Being that you are listed as in WV you might think about other characteristics for the tires you put on your vehicle. Perhaps how it does in snow or wet over how quiet the tire is.
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I just put the new Yokohama Avid Ascend's (17") on my '08 RX 350 and really like them. Quiteness was a top priority for me also. Living in NY I also needed decent all weather performance. I drive a lot for my job so tire longevity and low rolling resistance for good fuel economy was also important. The Yokohama Avid Ascend seems to deliver on all fronts. I've put about a thousand miles on them so far an they are very impressive IHMO. I read a few reviews prior to my purchase written by RX owners and they all had positive comments which finalized my decision. I have attached the pdf info sheet on them for your review.
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I just put the new Yokohama Avid Ascend's (17") on my '08 RX 350 and really like them. Quiteness was a top priority for me also. Living in NY I also needed decent all weather performance. I drive a lot for my job so tire longevity and low rolling resistance for good fuel economy was also important. The Yokohama Avid Ascend seems to deliver on all fronts. I've put about a thousand miles on them so far an they are very impressive IHMO. I read a few reviews prior to my purchase written by RX owners and they all had positive comments which finalized my decision. I have attached the pdf info sheet on them for your review.
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The Michelin Energy (is it MXV8) that are/were original equipment on my 09Rx350 were quite quiet at the beginning, now, after 25K miles, I find them quite noisy.
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What I have found is that many (most?) tires begin being a lot more noisy than originally once they reach, say, the 15K mile mark. So, anytime you change your tires, the new ones seem wonderfully 'quiet' compared to the old used ones. But the experience of people who have driven the 15K miles and then provide a comment is, in my opinion, much more valuable for that characteristic than teh people who send in a comment after one, two, five thousand miles....
The Michelin Energy (is it MXV8) that are/were original equipment on my 09Rx350 were quite quiet at the beginning, now, after 25K miles, I find them quite noisy.
The Michelin Energy (is it MXV8) that are/were original equipment on my 09Rx350 were quite quiet at the beginning, now, after 25K miles, I find them quite noisy.
There are several reason why the tires will get louder over time. First, the tire rubber compound is not the same all the way through the tire. It is somewhat like a layer cake. Next, if the tires have not been rotated properly, they need to be crossed on the way to the front from the back, the way the tires wear will cause them to be noisier.
Discussed here:
http://www.motorweek.org/features/go...tire_rotation/
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Next, if the tires have not been rotated properly, they need to be crossed on the way to the front from the back, the way the tires wear will cause them to be noisier.
Discussed here:
http://www.motorweek.org/features/go...tire_rotation/
Discussed here:
http://www.motorweek.org/features/go...tire_rotation/
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I got the Nitto 850+ 235/55/18 a few days ago by using my local mechanic. Those tires replaced the OEM Michelin Energy MXV4, which had 2/32 left on the front and 4/32 on the rear. The vehicle has about 28,000 miles on it, so I guess the original owner never took time to rotate the OEM tires.
So far the ride comfort and noise are a little bit better than the MXV4. But I guess it isn't fair to compare new tires vs. old tires. I paid about $680 out the door (including tax) with free rotation and balance for the life of the tires. I see that MXV4 are $750 after mail-in rebate on tirerack, plus mounting fees... and later fees for rotation and balance.
So far the ride comfort and noise are a little bit better than the MXV4. But I guess it isn't fair to compare new tires vs. old tires. I paid about $680 out the door (including tax) with free rotation and balance for the life of the tires. I see that MXV4 are $750 after mail-in rebate on tirerack, plus mounting fees... and later fees for rotation and balance.
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Put 4 Alenza's on our 400h about 8 days ago. I like the ride better than the OEM Michelins that were on the car. More responsive, stiffer. My wife says they ride much "harder" and she feels every bump in the road now. That said, she was willing to live with them . . . BUT . . . now getting 5 mpg less than with the old tires, and she is not happy with that. We are considering returning the tires and getting something else.
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Put 4 Alenza's on our 400h about 8 days ago. I like the ride better than the OEM Michelins that were on the car. More responsive, stiffer. My wife says they ride much "harder" and she feels every bump in the road now. That said, she was willing to live with them . . . BUT . . . now getting 5 mpg less than with the old tires, and she is not happy with that. We are considering returning the tires and getting something else.
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Costco does sell the Bridgestone Dueler H/L 422 Ecopia which is a newer tire with low rolling resistance.
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I had four Bridgestone H/L 422 Ecopia installed last week. Although I haven't put many miles on them, I am very impressed. I can tell they have low rolling resistance. The ride is smooth and quiet. I will post back on this thread again when I have more mileage on them.
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Put 4 Alenza's on our 400h about 8 days ago. I like the ride better than the OEM Michelins that were on the car. More responsive, stiffer. My wife says they ride much "harder" and she feels every bump in the road now. That said, she was willing to live with them . . . BUT . . . now getting 5 mpg less than with the old tires, and she is not happy with that. We are considering returning the tires and getting something else.
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Add to that, the fact that the Michelins start out life with only 9/32nds of tread depth compared to the Alenzas 12/32nds, and you will see that the Alenza has a lot more usable tread life. When you consider that you need to replace the tires when you are down to 2-4 32nds remaining, the usable tread depth is only 5-7 32nds for the Michelin and around 9-11 32nds for the Alenza.
I too liked the firmer ride of the Alenzas, They seem to run best at 30-32 PSI. They ride rather hard at 35PSI unless you are on the highway.
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That sounds about right. I like the characteristics the Alenzas gave my RX. Have been quite happy with them and a definite improvement over the OEM Michelins I had. For normal highway driving I have mine at 35PSI all around. However, when I get to PA I drop them down to 32PSI due to the condition of the roads there. Just too hard a ride on those roads which are all chopped up all the time.
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I have personally seen many Alenza wear fast on different types of vehicles. They may start with a deeper tread but that does not indicate that they will give you more life.
Alenza doesn't have a compound that is durable enough to get close to what you'd expect from it. The prices reflect what expensive components went into making the rubber such as .... well, Rubber!
In my real world experience I have seen thousands of Michelin tires last beyond the point that any other tire would have. Being worn comes with the job but performing up until the last day very well is a trait each Michelin has.
The Ecopia seem to be a very good tire and do very well (far better than previous attempts) in wet and snow conditions. People love this tire and it is on its way to becoming a winner for Bridgestone.
The Pirelli mentioned on the last page is a great alternative and is for sure manufactured to high standards. This will give you a very smooth ride and handling however the snow traction is not great.
My Disclaimer (There is no substitute for a safe winter season tire other than a tire that carries the winter symbol depicted with a mountain with a snowflake inside) Yes even if you do not get a lot of snow, simply driving in cold conditions will be improved with such a tire. They do make quiet ones too.
Chemical compounds give you the edge in snow and wet..... it is not really the stuff you see or feel that does it. Simply looking at a tread design will not indicate anything other than the basics and aesthetics.
Find a tire with the most Silica in the tread compound usually described as "Full Silica Compound" and you have your winner. Enter Michelin again. (Insider tip) They have technology not perfected by other manufacturers enabling the maximum Silica content of any rubber made today.
Like it or not. any Michelin will out perform the competition in wet or snowy conditions simply due to its DNA (chemical make up that you paid more for)
Longer lasting versions of any brand are available as well as low rolling resistance versions. Insider Tip (There will be a new rating required by the government to rate tires so consumers can compare brand to brand unlike the UTQG offered now that only depicts how the maker rates their own brand) It may be colors or numbers or a mix of each but you will be able to compare many attributes on an even playing field to help you make a better choice for yourself.
Warranty, Price and Free services such as road side assistance (for your tires) are all things to consider from sellers and manufacturers. One punctured tire that is non-reparable is all your savings down the drain plus some. AWD RX may mean you need all 4.... ouch!
Never compare the wear you got on an OE set to an aftermarket set even of the same type. There is a reason they wear fast and it is not to do with the Tire Makers but rather the client that requested the tire (Car companies). They Spec the tire and only want to pay pennies for them so what can you expect?
I digress .... Pleased to offer any advice possible.
Alenza doesn't have a compound that is durable enough to get close to what you'd expect from it. The prices reflect what expensive components went into making the rubber such as .... well, Rubber!
In my real world experience I have seen thousands of Michelin tires last beyond the point that any other tire would have. Being worn comes with the job but performing up until the last day very well is a trait each Michelin has.
The Ecopia seem to be a very good tire and do very well (far better than previous attempts) in wet and snow conditions. People love this tire and it is on its way to becoming a winner for Bridgestone.
The Pirelli mentioned on the last page is a great alternative and is for sure manufactured to high standards. This will give you a very smooth ride and handling however the snow traction is not great.
My Disclaimer (There is no substitute for a safe winter season tire other than a tire that carries the winter symbol depicted with a mountain with a snowflake inside) Yes even if you do not get a lot of snow, simply driving in cold conditions will be improved with such a tire. They do make quiet ones too.
Chemical compounds give you the edge in snow and wet..... it is not really the stuff you see or feel that does it. Simply looking at a tread design will not indicate anything other than the basics and aesthetics.
Find a tire with the most Silica in the tread compound usually described as "Full Silica Compound" and you have your winner. Enter Michelin again. (Insider tip) They have technology not perfected by other manufacturers enabling the maximum Silica content of any rubber made today.
Like it or not. any Michelin will out perform the competition in wet or snowy conditions simply due to its DNA (chemical make up that you paid more for)
Longer lasting versions of any brand are available as well as low rolling resistance versions. Insider Tip (There will be a new rating required by the government to rate tires so consumers can compare brand to brand unlike the UTQG offered now that only depicts how the maker rates their own brand) It may be colors or numbers or a mix of each but you will be able to compare many attributes on an even playing field to help you make a better choice for yourself.
Warranty, Price and Free services such as road side assistance (for your tires) are all things to consider from sellers and manufacturers. One punctured tire that is non-reparable is all your savings down the drain plus some. AWD RX may mean you need all 4.... ouch!
Never compare the wear you got on an OE set to an aftermarket set even of the same type. There is a reason they wear fast and it is not to do with the Tire Makers but rather the client that requested the tire (Car companies). They Spec the tire and only want to pay pennies for them so what can you expect?
I digress .... Pleased to offer any advice possible.