Is this the sign of something bad?
#32
Well; Im on a tight budget; very tight right now and 57 dollar oil changes arent gonna work for me. And I always get the oil change done when the maintainence reqd light comes on give or take a few miles which is usually 5000 miles. I dont like taking chances on oil changes and lexus says every 5000 miles so thats about when i get it done.
#33
Hi, I made this video tonite.
Car has been sitting all day and it is 41F here.
Cold start and high idle.
Oil: Mobil One Full Synthetic High Mileage 10W-40
Oil Filter: Genuine Toyota OEM
Oil change interval: 2x per year or every 3k miles whichever comes first.
Engine covers upper and lower: I leave them off so I can see, hear, and get to everything at any time.
Car: 2004 Lexus RX330
Mileage: 150K
https://youtu.be/mLmrISLO12Q
Merry Christmas CL Members
Car has been sitting all day and it is 41F here.
Cold start and high idle.
Oil: Mobil One Full Synthetic High Mileage 10W-40
Oil Filter: Genuine Toyota OEM
Oil change interval: 2x per year or every 3k miles whichever comes first.
Engine covers upper and lower: I leave them off so I can see, hear, and get to everything at any time.
Car: 2004 Lexus RX330
Mileage: 150K
https://youtu.be/mLmrISLO12Q
Merry Christmas CL Members
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#34
here is the link to a video that i took earlier with the noise Ive been hearing which is much more noticeable when cold
I just showed this video to a advisor at the shop down the street i always go to for oil changes and he was saying that it could be a oil pump which if thats the case i might as well trade in this rx350 for a different one as damage could have already happened due to lack of oil. Or he said it could be a exhaust gasket which if thats what it is still wont be a cheap fix but it would be a lot better than having to either get a whole new replacement engine or have this one rebuilt due to how expensive it would be. I swear!!!! lately it seems like me and "used" vehicle just dont seem to get along!!!!
I just showed this video to a advisor at the shop down the street i always go to for oil changes and he was saying that it could be a oil pump which if thats the case i might as well trade in this rx350 for a different one as damage could have already happened due to lack of oil. Or he said it could be a exhaust gasket which if thats what it is still wont be a cheap fix but it would be a lot better than having to either get a whole new replacement engine or have this one rebuilt due to how expensive it would be. I swear!!!! lately it seems like me and "used" vehicle just dont seem to get along!!!!
#35
Based upon a cursory search (3.5l v6 rx350 engine noise site:clublexus.com), that appears to be a pretty normal sound for the 3.5L V6 engine in the RX.
I would continue 5k oil changes, limit RPMs a bit when cold, turn up the radio a bit and drive. Just my $.02.
I would continue 5k oil changes, limit RPMs a bit when cold, turn up the radio a bit and drive. Just my $.02.
Last edited by cdnewton; 12-28-19 at 12:04 PM.
#36
I can tell u that is not a normal noise! I’ve been a huge car guy since I was just a kid and I’m 42 now.Even the guy I showed the video to heard the noise which was taken just after first startup of the day before warming up. I have a bad feeling it’s something that is gonna need to be addressed sooner than later. The noise is very very noticeable when first driving while still cold so to say it’s normal a no. It is not normal in my book.
#37
I can tell u that is not a normal noise! I’ve been a huge car guy since I was just a kid and I’m 42 now.Even the guy I showed the video to heard the noise which was taken just after first startup of the day before warming up. I have a bad feeling it’s something that is gonna need to be addressed sooner than later. The noise is very very noticeable when first driving while still cold so to say it’s normal a no. It is not normal in my book.
From my reading, the most common cause is the variable valve timing camshaft gear assembly leaking down oil pressure as the vehicle sits overnight and if you had a MIL and one or more VVT-i DTC's to go along with it, that would be concerning. For those with a MIL and VVT-i DTC's, Toyota issued a TSB; however, the fix requires engine removal. Obviously, out of warranty, that would be a very costly repair and you indicated money was extremely tight and with your car experiencing the dreaded transfer case seep, the pulsing in the front end at 65mph, an alternator noise and this engine noise, my recommendation was just to drive it, but it isn't my vehicle nor my money, so I will bow out of this one.
#38
My comment was simply that there might be some peace of mind to know there are hundreds (perhaps thousands) of threads across clublexus, toyotanation, bitog, etc -- all with the same type of complaint and without a MIL/DTC, Toyota/Lexus generally gives the same answer.
From my reading, the most common cause is the variable valve timing camshaft gear assembly leaking down oil pressure as the vehicle sits overnight and if you had a MIL and one or more VVT-i DTC's to go along with it, that would be concerning. For those with a MIL and VVT-i DTC's, Toyota issued a TSB; however, the fix requires engine removal. Obviously, out of warranty, that would be a very costly repair and you indicated money was extremely tight and with your car experiencing the dreaded transfer case seep, the pulsing in the front end at 65mph, an alternator noise and this engine noise, my recommendation was just to drive it, but it isn't my vehicle nor my money, so I will bow out of this one.
From my reading, the most common cause is the variable valve timing camshaft gear assembly leaking down oil pressure as the vehicle sits overnight and if you had a MIL and one or more VVT-i DTC's to go along with it, that would be concerning. For those with a MIL and VVT-i DTC's, Toyota issued a TSB; however, the fix requires engine removal. Obviously, out of warranty, that would be a very costly repair and you indicated money was extremely tight and with your car experiencing the dreaded transfer case seep, the pulsing in the front end at 65mph, an alternator noise and this engine noise, my recommendation was just to drive it, but it isn't my vehicle nor my money, so I will bow out of this one.
well so far I’ve gotten no low oil pressure light coming on so pressure can’t a issue; so if it’s something like low oil pressure due to a oil pump that’s wearing out then I’m basically screwed and I might as well look at trading it in because yes to have to take the entire engine out is a time consuming and expensive thing to have to do. I swear when it rains it pours as far as my luck and used vehicles go. The first rx I got which was a 300 well that was in a accident and the insurance company totaled it out because the amount of the damage exceeded the value of the vehicle. Second 300 I got had the dreaded transmission flaw that the first gens had due to poor design and I was getting a whining in first gear so it was time to trade it in on what I have now my current 07 350 which seems to have its share of issues; first a high pressure power steering line blew out on me then I found out I had a seeping transfer case seeping fluid which is another expensive fix that will have to be done eventually; and now I have this noise which if it’s something serious and I don’t have the means to get it fixed because of money then I’m screwed again! Argh!!!! Seems like no matter what I do I just can’t win!!!
#40
Turns out my suspicions seem to be right. It it bad news it appears. Went and saw a service advisor down the street at the shop I go to and he took the rx for a test run to see if he could hear it; he didnt hear it so it’s apparently something that is only happening at first startup. He could hear it in the video I took
the other day. From that he told me it could either be the oil pump on it’s way out or a main bearing inside the engine about to bite the dust; which if that’s the case I might as well look for a
differrent one;’as at that point we’re talking in the thousands of dollars for a replacement engine! I swear as far as my luck and uses Lexus goes lately when it rains it really pours!!! Arghhhhh!!!!
the other day. From that he told me it could either be the oil pump on it’s way out or a main bearing inside the engine about to bite the dust; which if that’s the case I might as well look for a
differrent one;’as at that point we’re talking in the thousands of dollars for a replacement engine! I swear as far as my luck and uses Lexus goes lately when it rains it really pours!!! Arghhhhh!!!!
#41
Turns out my suspicions seem to be right. It it bad news it appears. Went and saw a service advisor down the street at the shop I go to and he took the rx for a test run to see if he could hear it; he didnt hear it so it’s apparently something that is only happening at first startup. He could hear it in the video I took
the other day. From that he told me it could either be the oil pump on it’s way out or a main bearing inside the engine about to bite the dust; which if that’s the case I might as well look for a
differrent one;’as at that point we’re talking in the thousands of dollars for a replacement engine! I swear as far as my luck and uses Lexus goes lately when it rains it really pours!!! Arghhhhh!!!!
the other day. From that he told me it could either be the oil pump on it’s way out or a main bearing inside the engine about to bite the dust; which if that’s the case I might as well look for a
differrent one;’as at that point we’re talking in the thousands of dollars for a replacement engine! I swear as far as my luck and uses Lexus goes lately when it rains it really pours!!! Arghhhhh!!!!
1. All engines like yours make the same/similar noise when cold
2. The diagnosis your making is based off a cell phone video
3. A service advisor who was physically in your car found nothing wrong with it.
I suggest that you pay for an actual diagnosis rather than making a huge assumption. For all you know, it may be a bearing in anything from an idler pulley to the water pump.
#42
I feel like you are looking for problems when there aren't any.
1. All engines like yours make the same/similar noise when cold
2. The diagnosis your making is based off a cell phone video
3. A service advisor who was physically in your car found nothing wrong with it.
I suggest that you pay for an actual diagnosis rather than making a huge assumption. For all you know, it may be a bearing in anything from an idler pulley to the water pump.
1. All engines like yours make the same/similar noise when cold
2. The diagnosis your making is based off a cell phone video
3. A service advisor who was physically in your car found nothing wrong with it.
I suggest that you pay for an actual diagnosis rather than making a huge assumption. For all you know, it may be a bearing in anything from an idler pulley to the water pump.
#44
Turns out my suspicions seem to be right. It it bad news it appears. Went and saw a service advisor down the street at the shop I go to and he took the rx for a test run to see if he could hear it; he didnt hear it so it’s apparently something that is only happening at first startup. He could hear it in the video I took
the other day. From that he told me it could either be the oil pump on it’s way out or a main bearing inside the engine about to bite the dust; which if that’s the case I might as well look for a
differrent one;’as at that point we’re talking in the thousands of dollars for a replacement engine! I swear as far as my luck and uses Lexus goes lately when it rains it really pours!!! Arghhhhh!!!!
the other day. From that he told me it could either be the oil pump on it’s way out or a main bearing inside the engine about to bite the dust; which if that’s the case I might as well look for a
differrent one;’as at that point we’re talking in the thousands of dollars for a replacement engine! I swear as far as my luck and uses Lexus goes lately when it rains it really pours!!! Arghhhhh!!!!
From the way you were talking- this is the kinda sounds I was expecting to hear in your video. lol
If it sounds like this worry. lol
Last edited by Margate330; 12-30-19 at 01:10 PM.
#45
Service advisor heard nothing says a lot.
From the way you were talking- this is the kinda sounds I was expecting to hear in your video. lol
If it sounds like this worry. lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWK8...HH5rf4XKt3cU2z
From the way you were talking- this is the kinda sounds I was expecting to hear in your video. lol
If it sounds like this worry. lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWK8...HH5rf4XKt3cU2z
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