I'm thinking about this 2015 RX 350 for $20,000...
12-12-23, 10:50 AM
#31
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Then wait. They will get desperate around Christmas to the end of the year when it does not sell.
Meanwhile keep looking elsewhere. The Lexus site has a feature to search for used vehicles at Lexus dealer lots. I also like to search using www.cars.com using the advanced search feature to specify vehicle mileage, price, distance from my zip code etc.
You may want to broaden your search to include the mechanically identical Toyota Highlander. It is almost as nice as the RX, especially those with the Limited trim package.
Meanwhile keep looking elsewhere. The Lexus site has a feature to search for used vehicles at Lexus dealer lots. I also like to search using www.cars.com using the advanced search feature to specify vehicle mileage, price, distance from my zip code etc.
You may want to broaden your search to include the mechanically identical Toyota Highlander. It is almost as nice as the RX, especially those with the Limited trim package.
Thanks for the suggestion about the Toyota Highlander. I've been searching for a used car for about a year now. The Highlander, the Mazda CX-5 in the RX 350 were my final choices. But I'm pretty set on a RX350 now. Particularly either a 2015 or 2018.
He claimed he had other buyers. Perhaps he does but I'll see if they give me a call in a couple weeks.
12-12-23, 10:58 AM
#32
So you did NOT make an offer. You continue to allow them to control you by accepting their statement that they will not lower their asking price. Until you make an actual offer, you are not in the game playing to eventually win. Nothing else I can add will explain the process any further. I'm done -- good luck to you.
12-12-23, 11:06 AM
#33
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So you did NOT make an offer. You continue to allow them to control you by accepting their statement that they will not lower their asking price. Until you make an actual offer, you are not in the game playing to eventually win. Nothing else I can add will explain the process any further. I'm done -- good luck to you.
Last edited by MisterNoName; 12-12-23 at 11:11 AM.
12-12-23, 01:23 PM
#34
And remember, there will always be a used RX somewhere. So if this one doesn’t work out then there will be another.
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12-12-23, 03:01 PM
#35
I don't think I'd want a car that had been hit that hard. There's things that might have been overlooked during the repair like the sway bar bushings knocked part way out or internal parts of the drive shafts stressed and other things that can be a problem down the road.
I've been dealing with it for 5 years in a RAV4 and the accident doesn't even show on carfax.
Seems like I saw plenty of listings down around your area when I was hunting a couple months ago. Your color and mileage preferences may thin out the crowd but a few more miles will bring the price down a little.
I've been dealing with it for 5 years in a RAV4 and the accident doesn't even show on carfax.
Seems like I saw plenty of listings down around your area when I was hunting a couple months ago. Your color and mileage preferences may thin out the crowd but a few more miles will bring the price down a little.
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MisterNoName (12-12-23)
12-14-23, 02:03 AM
#36
Walk away from this car!!
Your inspector found several hints of major damage, maybe repaired well, but the dealer said minor damage. The dealer surely inspected this car very well and is aware of the extent of the damage. I find the seller dishonest. Paint can make a car look beautiful again. What if the alignment is off so slightly, can't be adjusted 100% and you wear out a tire every two years ?
I was in collision repair for a while. Adjusters love to come see a car after an accident, see it was previously repaired in the same area, and refuse full coverage of the present repair, they discount it. Don't get stuck with this pig, they are plenty more.
Keep the name and number of your PPI, he did a good job, you can use him again.
Your inspector found several hints of major damage, maybe repaired well, but the dealer said minor damage. The dealer surely inspected this car very well and is aware of the extent of the damage. I find the seller dishonest. Paint can make a car look beautiful again. What if the alignment is off so slightly, can't be adjusted 100% and you wear out a tire every two years ?
I was in collision repair for a while. Adjusters love to come see a car after an accident, see it was previously repaired in the same area, and refuse full coverage of the present repair, they discount it. Don't get stuck with this pig, they are plenty more.
Keep the name and number of your PPI, he did a good job, you can use him again.
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MisterNoName (12-14-23)
12-14-23, 04:19 AM
#37
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Welp...update:
The mobile pre-purchase inspector said it was in a collision. This is what he said:
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Exterior Comments: Car was hit on left side. The front fender and rear quarter panel were replaced. The drivers door was reskinned. The rear left
door was repaired/repainted. All else is original. There was FRAME damage to the left rear corner.
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He said it was well maintained. Here are his summary reports:
Interior Comments: Average condition overall. Minor flaws only.
Engine & Systems Comments: Needs nothing now. Well maintained. No engine codes. ABS and air bag systems normal operation - no
codes.
Undercarriage Comments: Needs nothing now.
Accessories & Electronics Comments: All working.
Test Drive:
Engine Operation: Smooth idle - All systems normal
Transmission & Clutch: Good shift points in all gears
Handling & Steering: Good - No play or shimmy
Braking: Good - No fade or pull
Four Wheel Drive: Normal operation in high and low gears
Report Summary: Average condition overall. Needs nothing now. Well maintained. Has had a major collision with frame damage.
NADA Retail: $ 22475.00.
Market Area Wholesale: $ 16500.00
Analyst Appraised Value: $ 19500.00
He put the appraisal at $19,500.00. The Lexus price is $19,770.00.
He said it's a great vehicle and very well maintained. But that frame damage takes it down a notch. And it looks to be a good repair job. That said, if it was him that he would pass on it. But he mentioned he's not telling me to do that but if it was him.
I still want to buy it but now I don't know. I've been looking for awhile and growing tired. I just need a good reliable to get me around without having to replace it in 5 years. I wish that damage wasn't there to make the decision easier. Are there any more questions I should be asking?
The mobile pre-purchase inspector said it was in a collision. This is what he said:
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Exterior Comments: Car was hit on left side. The front fender and rear quarter panel were replaced. The drivers door was reskinned. The rear left
door was repaired/repainted. All else is original. There was FRAME damage to the left rear corner.
--------
He said it was well maintained. Here are his summary reports:
Interior Comments: Average condition overall. Minor flaws only.
Engine & Systems Comments: Needs nothing now. Well maintained. No engine codes. ABS and air bag systems normal operation - no
codes.
Undercarriage Comments: Needs nothing now.
Accessories & Electronics Comments: All working.
Test Drive:
Engine Operation: Smooth idle - All systems normal
Transmission & Clutch: Good shift points in all gears
Handling & Steering: Good - No play or shimmy
Braking: Good - No fade or pull
Four Wheel Drive: Normal operation in high and low gears
Report Summary: Average condition overall. Needs nothing now. Well maintained. Has had a major collision with frame damage.
NADA Retail: $ 22475.00.
Market Area Wholesale: $ 16500.00
Analyst Appraised Value: $ 19500.00
He put the appraisal at $19,500.00. The Lexus price is $19,770.00.
He said it's a great vehicle and very well maintained. But that frame damage takes it down a notch. And it looks to be a good repair job. That said, if it was him that he would pass on it. But he mentioned he's not telling me to do that but if it was him.
I still want to buy it but now I don't know. I've been looking for awhile and growing tired. I just need a good reliable to get me around without having to replace it in 5 years. I wish that damage wasn't there to make the decision easier. Are there any more questions I should be asking?
I am not certain if the inspector did a proper inspection based on the incorrect four wheel drive data. Just saying.
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MisterNoName (12-14-23)
12-14-23, 01:19 PM
#38
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You can lock the all wheel drive to get out of mud, but it only stays that way until about 25 mph. The button is next to the shifter. He probably just switched it on and drove a bit.
See this video
See this video
12-16-23, 08:40 AM
#39
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Moving in to another one. Pictures are online but I'm going to request a video inside and out since this one is in another state.
They are asking for 20,500.
1) 2015. Only 55,000 miles. Silver exterior, light gray interior.
2) Two owners. Both in Florida. First owner was on a lease for two and a half years.Drove it for 18k miles. Second owner bought from another Lexus dealership in Florida. It has been maintenanced but no mileage service (20k, 30k, etc.). Brake fluid changed at 33k and 46k miles. Belts changed at 42k.
3) According to the Carfax, no accidents or damage. Obviously I'll get a prepurchase inspection to verify.
Don't like that it was on a lease and I wish it was maintenanced at the major mileage points but I suppose I have to compromise somewhere. Still only 55k miles.
They are asking for 20,500.
1) 2015. Only 55,000 miles. Silver exterior, light gray interior.
2) Two owners. Both in Florida. First owner was on a lease for two and a half years.Drove it for 18k miles. Second owner bought from another Lexus dealership in Florida. It has been maintenanced but no mileage service (20k, 30k, etc.). Brake fluid changed at 33k and 46k miles. Belts changed at 42k.
3) According to the Carfax, no accidents or damage. Obviously I'll get a prepurchase inspection to verify.
Don't like that it was on a lease and I wish it was maintenanced at the major mileage points but I suppose I have to compromise somewhere. Still only 55k miles.
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carguy75 (12-17-23)
12-16-23, 07:08 PM
#40
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You can lock the all wheel drive to get out of mud, but it only stays that way until about 25 mph. The button is next to the shifter. He probably just switched it on and drove a bit.
See this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHgGzBFI7rk
See this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHgGzBFI7rk
However, what you are saying is possible, but I am not buying it. The inspector should have made that clear with notation if that was the method used. I think the inspection was not properly performed.
The two systems are not even close in operation or function.
Last edited by carguy75; 12-16-23 at 07:14 PM.
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12-17-23, 07:17 PM
#42
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Moving in to another one. Pictures are online but I'm going to request a video inside and out since this one is in another state.
They are asking for 20,500.
1) 2015. Only 55,000 miles. Silver exterior, light gray interior.
2) Two owners. Both in Florida. First owner was on a lease for two and a half years.Drove it for 18k miles. Second owner bought from another Lexus dealership in Florida. It has been maintenanced but no mileage service (20k, 30k, etc.). Brake fluid changed at 33k and 46k miles. Belts changed at 42k.
3) According to the Carfax, no accidents or damage. Obviously I'll get a prepurchase inspection to verify.
Don't like that it was on a lease and I wish it was maintenanced at the major mileage points but I suppose I have to compromise somewhere. Still only 55k miles.
They are asking for 20,500.
1) 2015. Only 55,000 miles. Silver exterior, light gray interior.
2) Two owners. Both in Florida. First owner was on a lease for two and a half years.Drove it for 18k miles. Second owner bought from another Lexus dealership in Florida. It has been maintenanced but no mileage service (20k, 30k, etc.). Brake fluid changed at 33k and 46k miles. Belts changed at 42k.
3) According to the Carfax, no accidents or damage. Obviously I'll get a prepurchase inspection to verify.
Don't like that it was on a lease and I wish it was maintenanced at the major mileage points but I suppose I have to compromise somewhere. Still only 55k miles.
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