Oil level after dealer oil change
#16
Been checking oil levels weekly in vehicles since the mid-1970s. I prefer to do it first thing in the morning while the engine is cold. Some dipsticks are harder to read than others, especially if the dipstick tube is extremely narrow and the oil is fresh (which allows the oil to wick upwards on the inside surface of the tube more easily). This 0W-20 oil is indeed tough to read, especially when the oil is squeaky clean. Being able to read the oil level properly is a matter of learning how to do so given each vehicle's unique characteristics.
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nitroracer (07-26-24)
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Been checking oil levels weekly in vehicles since the mid-1970s. I prefer to do it first thing in the morning while the engine is cold. Some dipsticks are harder to read than others, especially if the dipstick tube is extremely narrow and the oil is fresh (which allows the oil to wick upwards on the inside surface of the tube more easily). This 0W-20 oil is indeed tough to read, especially when the oil is squeaky clean. Being able to read the oil level properly is a matter of learning how to do so given each vehicle's unique characteristics.
Just sharing mine ...
I check for oil drips when I reverse out of parking and do a once a month actual dip stick check. Unlike many, I am not obsessed with having the level exactly at Max. There is a comfort level that there is a larger margin for oil leak, but my feeling is any external incident that affects the oil flow, will not be a slow one.
Salim
#18
Rookie question, but is the oil overfilled to the point where I should be worried? 0w20 full synthetic on a 2010 RX350. The measurement is early morning before car had been driven and engine is cold. Sorry for the blurry
pic, phone had trouble focusing. Level marked with red line.
pic, phone had trouble focusing. Level marked with red line.
#19
Went back to Lexus. They assured me level was corrected and all should be OK. Measured next day with similar results.
A) I am doing something wrong when checking.
B) They’re doing something wrong when adding.
C) They did not correct the level.
Lexus is about half an hour away, so I hate having to drive back and forth for something like this. Again, checked on cold engine. Second pull. Leveled ground.
I’ve tried driving and letting car sit per Lexus, but synthetic 0w20 is so thin. The moment I pull the dipstick it runs or hits the wall coming out. Can only get reading on cold engine.
A) I am doing something wrong when checking.
B) They’re doing something wrong when adding.
C) They did not correct the level.
Lexus is about half an hour away, so I hate having to drive back and forth for something like this. Again, checked on cold engine. Second pull. Leveled ground.
I’ve tried driving and letting car sit per Lexus, but synthetic 0w20 is so thin. The moment I pull the dipstick it runs or hits the wall coming out. Can only get reading on cold engine.
#20
There are 3 possible next steps.
PS: Total speculation on my part is ... there is chance that the oil filter was not replaced. Tech just filled metered amount of , resulting in 1/2 of qt of excess oil.. Please do not accuse the service manager, but you can pose a question like ... how does the tech know how much to fill? Is the level checked repeatedly or they go by fixed amount? If you get a reply that they go by predetermined fixed amount then bring up casually that what happens when by accident the mechanic fails to replace oil filter.
PS: Total speculation on my part is ... there is chance that the oil filter was not replaced. Tech just filled metered amount of , resulting in 1/2 of qt of excess oil.. Please do not accuse the service manager, but you can pose a question like ... how does the tech know how much to fill? Is the level checked repeatedly or they go by fixed amount? If you get a reply that they go by predetermined fixed amount then bring up casually that what happens when by accident the mechanic fails to replace oil filter.
"Oh ya, we NEEEEEVER overfill!"
#21
I think the problem here is the fact that oil is checked after sitting overnight.
After sitting so long, a properly filled engine will always show higher than expected.
User manual indicates (see photo below from owners manual) oil should be checked on warm engine, waiting 5 minutes after shutting off.
This makes perfect sense since no garage checks your engine after oil change the “next morning”.
plus most folks will check oil after filling up on gas since most gas stations are pretty level and have free paper towels, plus about 5 minutes pass after you fill with gas (works perfectly with the process as spelled out in the owners manual)
New, clean oil is very hard to see on the dipstick, I agree that’s true, what I usually do is check my dipstick after inserting it but not inserting it that last 1-2cm. , the plastic part that you need to push inside the oil dipstick I leave out. That way when I check the dipstick, I find it easier to see the oil line about 1-2 cm below the max level line.
Based on your photos, looks like it was properly filled and the dealership merely entertained your complaint as nicely as they could.
After sitting so long, a properly filled engine will always show higher than expected.
User manual indicates (see photo below from owners manual) oil should be checked on warm engine, waiting 5 minutes after shutting off.
This makes perfect sense since no garage checks your engine after oil change the “next morning”.
plus most folks will check oil after filling up on gas since most gas stations are pretty level and have free paper towels, plus about 5 minutes pass after you fill with gas (works perfectly with the process as spelled out in the owners manual)
New, clean oil is very hard to see on the dipstick, I agree that’s true, what I usually do is check my dipstick after inserting it but not inserting it that last 1-2cm. , the plastic part that you need to push inside the oil dipstick I leave out. That way when I check the dipstick, I find it easier to see the oil line about 1-2 cm below the max level line.
Based on your photos, looks like it was properly filled and the dealership merely entertained your complaint as nicely as they could.
It literally just says "warm up car, wait 5 minutes, pull dipstick, wipe, reinsert, pull again, check". Checking in the morning is fine, so long as you follow the above algorithm. In fact this is the preferred method since you'll get less false reads from the dip stick tube being contaminated with oil from driving.
That's it. It's a frustrating experience to be sure.
Last edited by nitroracer; 07-26-24 at 01:56 PM.
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