RX350 Transmission Oil Change (merged threads)
#526
Transmission Fluid Exchange?
Hey all! First Post here. Just bough a 2013 RX350 this summer and passed 90k. I read somewhere here to get the transmission fluid flushed. First dealership told me “no, it’s closed and we don’t do that.” The next dealership said they could do a transmission fluid exchange. Any idea if that is the right option or should I keep calling? I appreciate the help in advance.
#527
That is an excellent option and you should pursue it. A fluid exchange is just another name for the slang term of "flush" when all the old fluid in the transmission is exchanged for new fluid via a machine that measures what goes out and back in while the cars engine is running to power the fluid circulation.
Some dealers will do it and some will not and make the excuse that it is sealed. In reality, they probably lack the technical skills and equipment to do the fluid exchange and thus miss out on another revenue stream that would help their customers vehicles last a lot longer. Maybe they make more money sellling you a replacement transmission after yours dies because you did not do the fluid exchange earlier.
You may want to skim through this entire lengthy thread as it provides a lot of useful information.
If you have AWD you should also have the transfer case and differential fluids changed at this time.
Some dealers will do it and some will not and make the excuse that it is sealed. In reality, they probably lack the technical skills and equipment to do the fluid exchange and thus miss out on another revenue stream that would help their customers vehicles last a lot longer. Maybe they make more money sellling you a replacement transmission after yours dies because you did not do the fluid exchange earlier.
You may want to skim through this entire lengthy thread as it provides a lot of useful information.
If you have AWD you should also have the transfer case and differential fluids changed at this time.
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#528
That is an excellent option and you should pursue it. A fluid exchange is just another name for the slang term of "flush" when all the old fluid in the transmission is exchanged for new fluid via a machine that measures what goes out and back in while the cars engine is running to power the fluid circulation.
Some dealers will do it and some will not and make the excuse that it is sealed. In reality, they probably lack the technical skills and equipment to do the fluid exchange and thus miss out on another revenue stream that would help their customers vehicles last a lot longer. Maybe they make more money sellling you a replacement transmission after yours dies because you did not do the fluid exchange earlier.
You may want to skim through this entire lengthy thread as it provides a lot of useful information.
If you have AWD you should also have the transfer case and differential fluids changed at this time.
Some dealers will do it and some will not and make the excuse that it is sealed. In reality, they probably lack the technical skills and equipment to do the fluid exchange and thus miss out on another revenue stream that would help their customers vehicles last a lot longer. Maybe they make more money sellling you a replacement transmission after yours dies because you did not do the fluid exchange earlier.
You may want to skim through this entire lengthy thread as it provides a lot of useful information.
If you have AWD you should also have the transfer case and differential fluids changed at this time.
My local dealer quoted me a price and had no issues changing the transmission fluid.
#529
I'm a bit confused when you say the dealer lacks technical knowledge or the tools to change the transmission fluid. I think it's more of a factory regulation that some dealers simply tell you it's not required.
My local dealer quoted me a price and had no issues changing the transmission fluid.
My local dealer quoted me a price and had no issues changing the transmission fluid.
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Cocal (10-08-20)
#530
The dealer quoted me a package price with a lot of other stuff that came to around 1300 or so.
The hybrid shop drained the fluid and refilled it and changed the plugs. I bought the parts from the dealer and paid labor. Came out much cheaper.
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13Rx350Whi (10-08-20)
#531
You are comparing apples to oranges. The hybrid has a completely different transmission that Toyota/Lexus call a Power Transfer Unit and it cannot be flushed/fluid exchanged. You can only drain and fill it.
All of the dealers have the technical expertise to do a fluid exchange which is the same as a flush, just different terminology. I think it is a matter of different dealers having a different business model or view on what services to provide, or whether they want to invest in the latest equipment to be able to perform these services. They all want to sell you extra maintenance items beyond what Toyota/Lexus calls for them to do as that makes them more money.
If they do not own a fluid exchange machine they of course will say you cannot do that to your car as they do not want you to go to the next place and have them do it and then lose your other repair and maintenance business.
All of the dealers have the technical expertise to do a fluid exchange which is the same as a flush, just different terminology. I think it is a matter of different dealers having a different business model or view on what services to provide, or whether they want to invest in the latest equipment to be able to perform these services. They all want to sell you extra maintenance items beyond what Toyota/Lexus calls for them to do as that makes them more money.
If they do not own a fluid exchange machine they of course will say you cannot do that to your car as they do not want you to go to the next place and have them do it and then lose your other repair and maintenance business.
#532
You could also look into Valvoline MaxLife ATF. My mechanic dropped the pan and changed the filter screen. I provided him with WS fluid. His opinion was that type of fluid wasn't the only good fluid available. After a lot of research on other toyota forums and bobistheoilguy, I came to the conclusion to start using Valvoline MaxLife. A lot of people have been using this fluid in their toyota transmissions with no issues. I don't recall the data but some think the MaxLife is a better fluid than WS. I did 4 drain and fills with MaxLife about 10 thousand miles ago. The transmission is shifting very smooth.
#534
None of them have dipsticks. That is the purpose of this thread, to complain about Toyota/Lexus eliminating the dipstick and then explain how to change the fluid and check the level. It takes a while to read through this thread, but you will learn a lot and in the end, may decide to either attempt it yourself or take it to a Toyota or Lexus dealer or independent Toyota specialist to change the ATF.
#535
None of them have dipsticks. That is the purpose of this thread, to complain about Toyota/Lexus eliminating the dipstick and then explain how to change the fluid and check the level. It takes a while to read through this thread, but you will learn a lot and in the end, may decide to either attempt it yourself or take it to a Toyota or Lexus dealer or independent Toyota specialist to change the ATF.
#536
Transmission oil replacement
I just replaced the transmission and rear differential oil on my 2010 Lexus 450H.
I did it in a local car service so not at a representative.
Do I have to change also any filter(s) together with the oil?
I did it in a local car service so not at a representative.
Do I have to change also any filter(s) together with the oil?
#538
#540
The 450h has what Lexus/Toyota call a power transfer unit and it is not a CVT. The fluid change on it is a drain and fill and it only holds about 4 quarts of ATF. The procedure is the same as changing the fluid on a manual transmission or differential in that you fill it up until fluid flows out of the fill hole which is on the side. There is no filter. It is as easy to do as changing engine oil.
The differential also does not have a filter and on the 450h AWD. I think it is some kind of electronic unit vs the traditional one found in the 350 AWD and that it also takes ATF.
The differential also does not have a filter and on the 450h AWD. I think it is some kind of electronic unit vs the traditional one found in the 350 AWD and that it also takes ATF.