RX350 Transmission Oil Change (merged threads)
#631
I think there are 1 or 2 bolts that are difficult to access due to frame members. You may have to loosen a motor mount or two and raise the engine up an inch or so to get to them. Check youtube videos for the RX and Highlander up to 2015 as they are almost exactly the same.
If it were my RX with that mileage I would just change the fluid and leave the filter alone. Save your money for something else.
In 2020 I bought a 2013 Sienna (to haul furniture) with 88,000 miles and probably the original ATF. It has the same engine and transmission as the RX.
I did 5 ATF drain and fills then drove it for 20,000 miles before trading it in last August. I did add a Magnefine inline filter. The transmission always worked perfectly and shifted like new. I used Mag One full synthetic low viscosity ATF. Same stuff I use in the RX.
If it were my RX with that mileage I would just change the fluid and leave the filter alone. Save your money for something else.
In 2020 I bought a 2013 Sienna (to haul furniture) with 88,000 miles and probably the original ATF. It has the same engine and transmission as the RX.
I did 5 ATF drain and fills then drove it for 20,000 miles before trading it in last August. I did add a Magnefine inline filter. The transmission always worked perfectly and shifted like new. I used Mag One full synthetic low viscosity ATF. Same stuff I use in the RX.
Last edited by Clutchless; 09-25-21 at 08:07 AM.
#632
Is this a flush?
Hello everyone,
My RX is due for its 75k mile service on Tuesday, and I asked the shop if they do transmission fluid service. He said they do, and upon inquiring if it is a flush, he said no. They hook up the transmission lines to a machine and swap the fluid out. So I’m assuming it is a fluid exchange, but I’m not completely sure. I definitely don’t want to risk my transmission and do a maintenance that may cause more harm than good. Should I go with their transmission fluid change service? My RX never had any transmission fluid change, and driving around DC definitely hurts the transmission more than usual. Since I have no experience or the means to do drain and fills, I need to go to a shop for this.
My RX is due for its 75k mile service on Tuesday, and I asked the shop if they do transmission fluid service. He said they do, and upon inquiring if it is a flush, he said no. They hook up the transmission lines to a machine and swap the fluid out. So I’m assuming it is a fluid exchange, but I’m not completely sure. I definitely don’t want to risk my transmission and do a maintenance that may cause more harm than good. Should I go with their transmission fluid change service? My RX never had any transmission fluid change, and driving around DC definitely hurts the transmission more than usual. Since I have no experience or the means to do drain and fills, I need to go to a shop for this.
#633
Hello everyone,
My RX is due for its 75k mile service on Tuesday, and I asked the shop if they do transmission fluid service. He said they do, and upon inquiring if it is a flush, he said no. They hook up the transmission lines to a machine and swap the fluid out. So I’m assuming it is a fluid exchange, but I’m not completely sure. I definitely don’t want to risk my transmission and do a maintenance that may cause more harm than good. Should I go with their transmission fluid change service? My RX never had any transmission fluid change, and driving around DC definitely hurts the transmission more than usual. Since I have no experience or the means to do drain and fills, I need to go to a shop for this.
My RX is due for its 75k mile service on Tuesday, and I asked the shop if they do transmission fluid service. He said they do, and upon inquiring if it is a flush, he said no. They hook up the transmission lines to a machine and swap the fluid out. So I’m assuming it is a fluid exchange, but I’m not completely sure. I definitely don’t want to risk my transmission and do a maintenance that may cause more harm than good. Should I go with their transmission fluid change service? My RX never had any transmission fluid change, and driving around DC definitely hurts the transmission more than usual. Since I have no experience or the means to do drain and fills, I need to go to a shop for this.
NOT to let them add any additives, be they BG or MOC. Being a Lex dealer it will probably be MOC.
#634
What brand and type of ATF will that shop utilize for your vehicle? Very important that it meets the required specs and that they wind up with the correct volume of ATF in the system. I do not trust these fluid exchange jobs - there is always a possibility that long-settled debris will be dragged up and through the valve bodies and create serious problems that were not there before. I will stick wiith simple drain-and-fills on all of our vehicles and do it myself to ensure it is done correctly.
#635
What shop in MD are you using? Satellite Motors in Silver Spring is a Toyota specialist and knows how to do a proper transmission fluid exchange. A friend always uses them for her RAV4 on which they have done a transmission fluid exchange.
I think at 75 you will be fine doing a fluid exchange. Just ask what fluid they are using.
I think at 75 you will be fine doing a fluid exchange. Just ask what fluid they are using.
#636
In the old days it used to be called a transmission flush now it is called a fluid exchange which is more correct. Today's machine are really sophisticated and do a great job. The only possible problem is with transmissions that have way over 100K miles as the new fluid "May" dislodge varnish accumulated over miles/time, I don't think you are there yet, but if it makes you feel better do several Drop & Fill, the Only thing that I'd advise you not to do if going for the Machine Fluid Exchange is
NOT to let them add any additives, be they BG or MOC. Being a Lex dealer it will probably be MOC.
NOT to let them add any additives, be they BG or MOC. Being a Lex dealer it will probably be MOC.
What brand and type of ATF will that shop utilize for your vehicle? Very important that it meets the required specs and that they wind up with the correct volume of ATF in the system. I do not trust these fluid exchange jobs - there is always a possibility that long-settled debris will be dragged up and through the valve bodies and create serious problems that were not there before. I will stick wiith simple drain-and-fills on all of our vehicles and do it myself to ensure it is done correctly.
What shop in MD are you using? Satellite Motors in Silver Spring is a Toyota specialist and knows how to do a proper transmission fluid exchange. A friend always uses them for her RAV4 on which they have done a transmission fluid exchange.
I think at 75 you will be fine doing a fluid exchange. Just ask what fluid they are using.
I think at 75 you will be fine doing a fluid exchange. Just ask what fluid they are using.
#637
LXT looks like a great shop as it is run by a former Lexus Tech. You should be in good hands with them. https://www.******************/
According to independent reviews, I found at Washington Consumer Checkbook they are well regarded and use oem Lexus/Toyota parts
I don't want to start a big argument here, but:
The fluid should state it is Toyota WS compatible or approved. It needs to be low viscosity. Many here and at Toyota Nation use Valvoline Maxlife multi-vehicle synthetic ATF in the Red Bottle. I have used Idemitsu TLS-LV which is a synthetic made to replace Toyota WS (it says so on the bottle) and MAG ONE full synthetic, low viscosity multi-vehicle ATF.
I think the BG machine does a good job with the fluid exchange and my local Toyota dealer uses it, and their chemicals, but WS fluid. Thousands of vehicles get their ATF exchanged on their machines without problems. It is the skill of the operator that is important. I wonder if the Toyota dealer uses it because it may be faster to adjust the fluid than the Lexus temperature overflow method since it is done with the motor running and they do not have to wait for it to cool down then warm up. https://www.bgprod.com/catalog/trans...ower-steering/
Time is money.
We had my Niece's 2010 ES350 transmission serviced there in 2018 at 40,000 miles and now she is at 85,000 and it still runs great.
I find it odd Satellite wanted you to return after the transmission service.
BG makes a fully synthetic low viscosity ATF that is compatible with WS. I wonder if it is relabeled MAG ONE, or Valvoline. I would not have a problem using it if that is what the shop offered.
I do have concerns about their additional chemicals. I know they run a pre-exchange cleaner through the trans and then some additive stuff after the exchange in addition to the ATF.
https://www.bgprod.com/catalog/trans...synthetic-atf/
According to independent reviews, I found at Washington Consumer Checkbook they are well regarded and use oem Lexus/Toyota parts
I don't want to start a big argument here, but:
The fluid should state it is Toyota WS compatible or approved. It needs to be low viscosity. Many here and at Toyota Nation use Valvoline Maxlife multi-vehicle synthetic ATF in the Red Bottle. I have used Idemitsu TLS-LV which is a synthetic made to replace Toyota WS (it says so on the bottle) and MAG ONE full synthetic, low viscosity multi-vehicle ATF.
I think the BG machine does a good job with the fluid exchange and my local Toyota dealer uses it, and their chemicals, but WS fluid. Thousands of vehicles get their ATF exchanged on their machines without problems. It is the skill of the operator that is important. I wonder if the Toyota dealer uses it because it may be faster to adjust the fluid than the Lexus temperature overflow method since it is done with the motor running and they do not have to wait for it to cool down then warm up. https://www.bgprod.com/catalog/trans...ower-steering/
Time is money.
We had my Niece's 2010 ES350 transmission serviced there in 2018 at 40,000 miles and now she is at 85,000 and it still runs great.
I find it odd Satellite wanted you to return after the transmission service.
BG makes a fully synthetic low viscosity ATF that is compatible with WS. I wonder if it is relabeled MAG ONE, or Valvoline. I would not have a problem using it if that is what the shop offered.
I do have concerns about their additional chemicals. I know they run a pre-exchange cleaner through the trans and then some additive stuff after the exchange in addition to the ATF.
https://www.bgprod.com/catalog/trans...synthetic-atf/
Last edited by Clutchless; 02-07-22 at 06:07 PM.
#638
In the old days it used to be called a transmission flush now it is called a fluid exchange which is more correct. Today's machine are really sophisticated and do a great job. The only possible problem is with transmissions that have way over 100K miles as the new fluid "May" dislodge varnish accumulated over miles/time, I don't think you are there yet, but if it makes you feel better do several Drop & Fill, the Only thing that I'd advise you not to do if going for the Machine Fluid Exchange is
NOT to let them add any additives, be they BG or MOC. Being a Lex dealer it will probably be MOC.
NOT to let them add any additives, be they BG or MOC. Being a Lex dealer it will probably be MOC.
I was looking i to purchasing a 2015 Rx fsport from a small Dealer. They got the car and told me that the mechanic noticed that the trans fluid was a touch low which was weird to me considering the trans is sealed and no dipstick to check level. They claim that is what they do to all the cars that come in that are "higher mileage"...keep in mind it only has 89k. You guys think this is a red flag and stay away? They used BG transmission conditioner
#639
Not necessarily. If it drives fine now it is probably okay. That is a good policy on their part to help prevent warranty claims from transmission problems.
Keep in mind the F Sport has the 8 speed transmission and the fluid exchange process is different from the 6 speed and it feels much different.
I had a similar situation with the 2013 Toyota Sienna I owned for 18 months. I got it with 88,000 miles and no record of the transmission fluid ever having been changed. It drove okay but was much slower from a stop than my RX. However it has a great service history. I started doing 3 transmission drain and fills. It had the exact same 6-speed transmission as the RX.
On the first one, I only got about a quart and a half. I always got 2 quarts or a bit over on the RX. So I started increasing the amount of fluid added after each drain. The shift quality was not much better the first time, but improved after the second.
When I completed the third fill with a bit over 2 quarts the Sienna drive was just like the RX. It had an instant response to the throttle from a stop and shifted much faster.
So it did have low transmission fluid, whether from the factory or for whatever reason over 7 years and 88,000 miles. I did not see any leaks.
When I traded it in last Summer it had 109,000 miles and the transmission shifted perfectly. Now the front struts were beginning to leak....
Keep in mind the F Sport has the 8 speed transmission and the fluid exchange process is different from the 6 speed and it feels much different.
I had a similar situation with the 2013 Toyota Sienna I owned for 18 months. I got it with 88,000 miles and no record of the transmission fluid ever having been changed. It drove okay but was much slower from a stop than my RX. However it has a great service history. I started doing 3 transmission drain and fills. It had the exact same 6-speed transmission as the RX.
On the first one, I only got about a quart and a half. I always got 2 quarts or a bit over on the RX. So I started increasing the amount of fluid added after each drain. The shift quality was not much better the first time, but improved after the second.
When I completed the third fill with a bit over 2 quarts the Sienna drive was just like the RX. It had an instant response to the throttle from a stop and shifted much faster.
So it did have low transmission fluid, whether from the factory or for whatever reason over 7 years and 88,000 miles. I did not see any leaks.
When I traded it in last Summer it had 109,000 miles and the transmission shifted perfectly. Now the front struts were beginning to leak....
#640
The Car Care Nut has a good video on changing fluids on a sealed Toyota/Lexus transmission.
The guy is a Toyota master service technician and he recommends doing periodic drain and refills based on his real world experience servicing these vehicles over many years. I just did my first drain and refill on my 13 RX350 at just over 100,000 miles. I used the procedure shown and used a scan tool method to monitor the fluid temp.
The guy is a Toyota master service technician and he recommends doing periodic drain and refills based on his real world experience servicing these vehicles over many years. I just did my first drain and refill on my 13 RX350 at just over 100,000 miles. I used the procedure shown and used a scan tool method to monitor the fluid temp.
#641
[QUOTE=Clutchless;11223597]
The fluid should state it is Toyota WS compatible or approved. It needs to be low viscosity. Many here and at Toyota Nation use Valvoline Maxlife multi-vehicle synthetic ATF in the Red Bottle. I have used Idemitsu TLS-LV which is a synthetic made to replace Toyota WS (it says so on the bottle).
I think the BG machine does a good job with the fluid exchange and my local Toyota dealer uses it, and their chemicals, but WS fluid. Thousands of vehicles get their ATF exchanged on their machines without problems. It is the skill of the operator that is important. I wonder if the Toyota dealer uses it because it may be faster to adjust the fluid than the Lexus temperature overflow method since it is done with the motor running and they do not have to wait for it to cool down then warm up.
I find it odd Satellite wanted you to return after the transmission service. QUOTE]
All of that and particularly what I have highlighted is very true, for myself if not using Toyota WS I'd use Idemitsu orAisin ATF the latter is the maker of Toyota trannies. I'm not a believer in ATF that suit all trannies, not trying to badmouth Valvoline
The fluid should state it is Toyota WS compatible or approved. It needs to be low viscosity. Many here and at Toyota Nation use Valvoline Maxlife multi-vehicle synthetic ATF in the Red Bottle. I have used Idemitsu TLS-LV which is a synthetic made to replace Toyota WS (it says so on the bottle).
I think the BG machine does a good job with the fluid exchange and my local Toyota dealer uses it, and their chemicals, but WS fluid. Thousands of vehicles get their ATF exchanged on their machines without problems. It is the skill of the operator that is important. I wonder if the Toyota dealer uses it because it may be faster to adjust the fluid than the Lexus temperature overflow method since it is done with the motor running and they do not have to wait for it to cool down then warm up.
I find it odd Satellite wanted you to return after the transmission service. QUOTE]
All of that and particularly what I have highlighted is very true, for myself if not using Toyota WS I'd use Idemitsu orAisin ATF the latter is the maker of Toyota trannies. I'm not a believer in ATF that suit all trannies, not trying to badmouth Valvoline
#644
Look at the Car Care Nut youtube video mentioned above. Also, you have to connect via the OBD cable connection under the dash. I don't think you can do wifi or Bluetooth connection. The vehicle is too old for that to work. The Bluetooth apparently only works for phone or music. I think Scotty Kilmer recommends a scan tool on his youtube channel.
#645