Joeb427

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I installed a Xenon Depot HID headlight set on my '06 IS 250.Great quality parts and no problems.Having no AFS wasn't great,though.
Just don't feel it's not worth it for my fogs.
I never use them except for.....rain and fog.

ry888

Wow, the HID fogs cost so much...
How 'bout the black projector headlight that look like rx hybrid????
I was thinking about changing the rx350 chrome headlamp to black multi projector headlamp... anyone has done that in this forum???

Stormforge

both the cheap fog kit and lexus japan hid kit do the same thing: provide lighting so you can see better. on this point, i can assume we both agree. if price and visibility is your only criteria for judging whether to go with a regular aftermarket fog kit or lexus japan hid kit, then obviously the cheaper solution would be for you.

now if the beam pattern is important to you, then the lexus japan hid kit would be the way to go. look at the picture below on how the beam pattern is displayed, and you'll understand why i say it's better than a cheap aftermarket hid kit. can an aftermarket hid kit provide the same type of beam focus/pattern as the lexus japan hid kit? i don't think so.

as for quality of jdm fogs, all you need to do is look at the pics of my fogs in the link below and see for yourself. this should give you a relative good idea what the 3RX oem hid projector fogs are like in terms of quality, size, and workmanship.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gs-...-the-dark.html

as you can see, i speak from experience. i don't think my comments are moot as you put it.

as for pricing, i've already mentioned it above. around $1,900 give or take a few hundred bucks. the price includes markup, duty, shipping, insurance. not cheap, and as i said before, you have to pay to play. i never said this mod is for everybody, it is expensive but exclusive.

kitlz

Joeb, good to know. I'm not fond of the yellowness of the fog lights and the LEDs are kind of anemic. So I have the fogs on all the time.

kitlz

Storm, I knew you'd jump into this one. And not everybody can play the same game as you

Seriously, I am only exploring my options at this point. I figured I'd hit up Carson to get an idea of cost and take it from there. Obviously I want to make sure I put in what will work best. Whether that's the JDM fogs or something else, I don't know. Damn, I wish my installer was still around

Stormforge

i understand kitlz, but i don't want people trashing the lexus japan hid kits unless they have their facts straight. IF lighting visibility and pricing is all that matters, then i would agree that a kit from xenon depot would do the job well. to me, lighting is more than just affordability and bright light. it's also about quality and beam focus/pattern.

i'm sure you will find the best lighting product you need when it is time for you to get a fog light. keep looking for a new installer, you have time!

Johnny

Storm, I don't want to flog this topic to death, and I can see you feel quite passionate about it; I would feel likewise if I spent that kind of dough. However, the advantage that is promoted in the Lexus description has more to do with luminosity than pattern.

Pattern is something that is critical with the higher set low beams, and I for one abhor the converters out there driving around with unmasked HID bulbs in headlights. I wish the MVB would bring back the vehicle inspections that were mandatory 30+ years back, when light patterns were scrutinized for compliance. Nevertheless, in this case, we're talking fogs which I stubbornly only use when we really need them out here on the coast. I refuse to drive around with them on 99% of the time - it's just not what they were designed for.

In conclusion, if I'm only using them during thick foggy conditions, oncoming drivers will not be blinded by my unmasked fogs. Fog lights on all factory cars I've driven are generally aimed at the pavement anyway, not at eye level. In the last forty years, they have gone from being a practical, but limited light source, to an unfettered and unregulated fashion statement, not only by ordinary Joes, but car makers as well... Oh, and I hope the trash statement wasn't leveled at me. I'm the last guy to put down Lexus...

Stormforge

we can agree to disagree on this point.

but that is what you will get if you put a regular aftermarket hid fog kit into the fog light assembly. it is the same as if you were to put hid kits in the headlamps. and this is the point i'm trying to make (perhaps unsuccessfully), and why the lexus japan hid fog kit is better as it does not blind you like the regular hid fog kits do.


i will respect your decision on when/where to use them, as long as you respect my decision on when i use them.


not at all. but perhaps "trash" was too harsh a word to use. my intent is that before anyone disregards the oem hid fogs due to price, that they look at what they are getting for the price. you could buy a $200 suit at moore's, or you could buy a $2K+ zegna suit at holt renfrew. there is a huge disparity in price between the two suits, but the quality (cutting, fabric, style, etc) is night and day difference. you get what you pay for, that is all i'm trying to say and emphasize.

Johnny

I failed to mention, one reason I do leave them off most of the time is I was once warned by the cops in Port Moody at a road stop. The constable told me to turn them off, and it was actually raining heavily at the time. I asked him to clarify his request for me, to which he replied the law says they can only be on in foggy conditions. I never pursued the veracity of his statement, so I decided to comply anyway. So technically, with so many drivers non-compliant nowadays, it is probably used as an excuse to find something wrong...

Stormforge

interesting, thx for sharing. i have always been running with fogs on (either hid or just plain halogen fogs), and i've never been pulled over for using them. perhaps i should lessen my use of fogs to be more compliant...but once you are accustomed to driving with them on, it's hard not to!

kitlz

That sucks especially with the LEDs. The fogs make a big difference, yellow and all

KI_GSE21

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I like it and it looks really clean. I think bigger aftermarket wheels and a mild drop will make it perfect