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Old 09-27-16, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by vlad_a
OP, what country are you in and where are you trying to import the vehicle from?
Obviously, VIN in question does not comply with US standards, which may be an indication of it being a fake.
Car is being purchased in Kenya. Imported from South Africa.
Old 09-27-16, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by lexusrus
Reminds me of some VIN CLONING Ring that got busted in FL for the Illegal Auto Export Scheme or some lower models were rejected overseas and bounced back and sold to unsuspecting US customers .

Watch out!!! Once the vehicle is discovered stolen and has a false VIN, the unsuspecting customer who bought it not only has to GIVE UP THE VEHICLE, BUT ALSO STILL LIABLE FOR THE VEHICLE LOAN /NOTE BALANCE. If you had paid CASH, well you are just SOL!!!! In the report, often even legit big name car manufacturer dealerships (whom had no idea the vehicle was not legut) bought these illegal vehicles and turned around sold to customers.

The following occurred in 1998 (if my memory is correct ). But way back in the 1970's a big ring was busted in NJ for similar scams:

https://pibillwarner.wordpress.com/2009/03/25/fbi-breaks-up-25-mill-vin-cloning-scam-arrests-ringleaders-same-scam-run-in-sarasota-pi-bill-warner-wants-to-know-when-will-used-car-dealers-be-arrested/

I would pass on this one. If you still want to pursue it, then I would take it to a Lexus dealer and ask them to show you that ALL VIN#s on ALL BODY PANELS, engine, transmission, and etc. MATCH!!! But even then, I would really question if all the VIN labels are authentic and not cloned? ?? Your insurance company can run the VIN# through a database and see (but IDK if this is linked INTERNATIONALLY if the vehicle was originally stolen from overseas)??? Again, too many questions on this vehicle and I would just pass and move on....
Is there a separate database for international VIN numbers? Is there a different format for international VIN numbers?
Old 09-27-16, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Buzzer777
Your Insurance company would know! Also the Vin Number on my 2013 appears on the drivers side windshield, drivers side door jamb as well as inside the engine compartment!
You can also log into Lexus vehicle history and check there... https://secure.drivers.lexus.com/lexusdrivers/history

here is a little info I found but interestingly the model year is missing!

http://www.vindecoder.net/?vin=JTJBK11A602004684&submit=Decode

Be careful of a possible salvage vehicle...
Would the attached VIN decoder document from Lexus apply to all 2010 Lexus vehicles all over ths world? If so, the model year digit (digit 10) doesn't seem to line up. If not, is there another such document for 2010?
Old 09-27-16, 08:31 PM
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That VIN comes up as:
11/2009 LEXUS RX270/350/450H (GGL15R-AWTGKW)
STD EUR RHD 2GRFE ATM 6FC
Old 09-27-16, 08:33 PM
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I would venture to guess the rest of the VIN labels are either missing, fake or machined off.


Originally Posted by mandyfig
Definitely something going on here, looks like a tape over the Original...!!
Old 09-27-16, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by r25ahmed
Thanks. See attached for a photo of the nameplate inside the door jamb which lists this VIN number and other info. Does everything look ok?
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Personally, I'd just pass this vehicle. If selling dealer or individual can't explain about the VIN
some thing must be fishy. Move on look for another one.
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So which model is this one? RX270, 350, OR 450H? SURELY, one single RX can't be all three models at the same time!!! LOL, a new transformer RX!!

Originally Posted by Lexus2000
That VIN comes up as:
11/2009 LEXUS RX270/350/450H (GGL15R-AWTGKW)
STD EUR RHD 2GRFE ATM 6FC
Old 09-27-16, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by r25ahmed
Would the attached VIN decoder document from Lexus apply to all 2010 Lexus vehicles all over ths world? If so, the model year digit (digit 10) doesn't seem to line up. If not, is there another such document for 2010?
The best party to answer would be an official Lexus outlet. Not being versed in any other venue, In cannot even venture a decent guess. In the USA, we can inquire almost anything by contacting Lexus USA. There must be some entity that has responsibility for Kenya???

Now, I have become curious as to the amount of effort being used to check out this particular vehicle.

As I mentioned before, if it were me, I would have moved on by now in a search for your RX350! It is possible that you maybe turning over stones that best remain covered. This thread has mentioned various methods that you can avail yourself of should you continue...ie: As has been mentioned, the Insurance company, law enforcement...Lexus dealer/ company representatives etc.

Best of luck in your search for a suitable RX!
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Originally Posted by Htony
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Personally, I'd just pass this vehicle. If selling dealer or individual can't explain about the VIN
some thing must be fishy. Move on look for another one.
I would definitely pass and seek out a different vehicle, preferably from another party...just does not "feel" right! In the USA, there are laws to protect the buyer in MOST cases where correct protocols are followed....In fact I just got done with a bunch of questions posed on my recent purchase of my 2013 RX350 where ALL INFO WAS CORRECT! Apparently Nevada DMV was unable to match up something in my registration and threatened to revoke my license plates!
My RX was purchased from an official Lexus dealer in Nevada (USA) and The VIN, seller and buyer info all was correct! It took written communication from my insurance company to satisfy the DMV!!! (Very strict here)

What about where you are?

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You could go to the Lexus Customer Service forum here on CL and ask them to verify the VIN for you.
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OP, by now it should be blatantly obvious that the vehicle in South Africa is a stolen unit with its VIN re-keyed.
You probably don't want to have to bribe your way out of Kenyan police if they find discrepancies upon an inspection.
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Thank you all for your helpful responses!
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X2. 👍👍👍👍👍. Time to move on to look elsewhere.



Originally Posted by vlad_a
OP, by now it should be blatantly obvious that the vehicle in South Africa is a stolen unit with its VIN re-keyed.
You probably don't want to have to bribe your way out of Kenyan police if they find discrepancies upon an inspection.
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