2016 RX 350 Excessive noise and vibration
#556
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My RX's vibration and drone do not go away at all even after 2 hours of driving. The vibration and some minor hesitation from full stop is what I hated the most and it is unacceptable on a $50k car. My cheaper ES does not have any of these issues, hopefully the TSB can address some of these issues.
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@615tcp I took it to the dealer a week ago left it overnight for them to check it out at cold start. All they told me is that their head tech. is aware of this issue and Lexus knows about this problem but no fix available yet ... I just got the car 4 weeks ago and its a purchase, not sure bout the fix can shed some light on what oem part etc needs to be replaced? just worried me on a vehicle that costs over 50k i am having to change parts 4 weeks into it... i have been a loyal lexus/toyota client 17+ years...
see video on my drone / vibration noise ...
see video on my drone / vibration noise ...
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My RX's vibration and drone do not go away at all even after 2 hours of driving. The vibration and some minor hesitation from full stop is what I hated the most and it is unacceptable on a $50k car. My cheaper ES does not have any of these issues, hopefully the TSB can address some of these issues.
Sorry to report the TSB has done nothing for the vibration and drone. If anything it might hold the shift points slightly longer.
Once again disappointed. Service Manager said the drone has something to do with the exhaust sensor pype, whatever
that is.
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@tdjacw I took it to the dealer a week of 2/8/17 I left it overnight for them to check it out at cold start.Are you aware of any such issues on your vehicle? what have you heard about the tsb release any details will be appreciated... All they told me is that their head tech. is aware of this issue and Lexus knows about this problem but no fix available yet ... I just got the car 4 weeks ago and its a purchase, not sure bout the fix can shed some light on what oem part etc needs to be replaced? just worried me on a vehicle that costs over 50k i am having to change parts 4 weeks into it... i have been a loyal lexus/toyota client 17+ years... i dont want to assume any expense on changing exhausts/mufflers etc on a brand new vehicle ... lexus should figure this one out i love toyota/lexus for their engineering and have always recommended them to benz customers even got some to switch over .... not sure whats taking the design team of Gen Ikeda and his engineers in japan so long to release a fix ...
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Took my car for its first 5K service and told them of the droning. Was told by the dealer that the issue couldn't be duplicated and that I should come and take a ride with an experienced tech. So, I did since I had to pick up my vehicle anyway. One of the delear's head techs went on a ride and drove my car with me in the passenger seat. He said, he drives RXs all day, everyday and that mine was not operating differently. He said, Lexus has no TSB on this, he never had anyone complain about this issue ever. He assured me by saying: "Lexus is just making the RX sportier now so it's not as silky soft as it once was. Your vehicle is operating at specs." Well, at least I went on record about the issue should Lexus decides to address it in the future.
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@tdjacw I took it to the dealer a week of 2/8/17 I left it overnight for them to check it out at cold start.Are you aware of any such issues on your vehicle? what have you heard about the tsb release any details will be appreciated... All they told me is that their head tech. is aware of this issue and Lexus knows about this problem but no fix available yet ... I just got the car 4 weeks ago and its a purchase, not sure bout the fix can shed some light on what oem part etc needs to be replaced? just worried me on a vehicle that costs over 50k i am having to change parts 4 weeks into it... i have been a loyal lexus/toyota client 17+ years... i dont want to assume any expense on changing exhausts/mufflers etc on a brand new vehicle ... lexus should figure this one out i love toyota/lexus for their engineering and have always recommended them to benz customers even got some to switch over .... not sure whats taking the design team of Gen Ikeda and his engineers in japan so long to release a fix ...
Mine does the same thing. The only TSB right now is for the transmission hesitation but it didnt help mine at all.
I really dont know whats going on. When I contacted Lexus headquarters they told be there was a TSB coming out
for the drone and now the service manager says there is no fix at this time. I leased mine an am so furstrated I just
want to get rid of it as it just annoys me everytime I drive it. Not the Lexus experience I was hoping for.
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Is it really excessive noise vs the old model? Had the opportunity to ride in a 2015 rx350 and IMO there is a fair bit of engine motor noise that makes it into the cabin. The 2015 cabin is nowhere near as noise isolated as my es350 or a cadillac xt5 which I recently had for a day. There isn't much by way of noise suppression...is the new RX any better. Those who have owned other models please comment.
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YouTube video of droning vibration noise 2017 rx 350 on cold start low RPM
this is the noise I am experiencing on cold starts even after warming engine up 10 minutes, the noise occurs on low rpm acceleration and then eventually goes away after few minutes of driving.
focus on 33-36 seconds and 54-56 seconds into the video ...
https://youtu.be/vpzkPLnv544
dealership stated Lexus is aware of the issue but no remedy and also noted on the service call that this is common characteristic of the new RX body style .... once lexus comes up with a fix, it will be fixed under warranty.
this is the noise I am experiencing on cold starts even after warming engine up 10 minutes, the noise occurs on low rpm acceleration and then eventually goes away after few minutes of driving.
focus on 33-36 seconds and 54-56 seconds into the video ...
https://youtu.be/vpzkPLnv544
dealership stated Lexus is aware of the issue but no remedy and also noted on the service call that this is common characteristic of the new RX body style .... once lexus comes up with a fix, it will be fixed under warranty.
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YouTube video of droning vibration noise 2017 rx 350 on cold start low RPM
this is the noise I am experiencing on cold starts even after warming engine up 10 minutes, the noise occurs on low rpm acceleration and then eventually goes away after few minutes of driving.
focus on 33-36 seconds and 54-56 seconds into the video ...
https://youtu.be/vpzkPLnv544
dealership stated Lexus is aware of the issue but no remedy and also noted on the service call that this is common characteristic of the new RX body style .... once lexus comes up with a fix, it will be fixed under warranty.
this is the noise I am experiencing on cold starts even after warming engine up 10 minutes, the noise occurs on low rpm acceleration and then eventually goes away after few minutes of driving.
focus on 33-36 seconds and 54-56 seconds into the video ...
https://youtu.be/vpzkPLnv544
dealership stated Lexus is aware of the issue but no remedy and also noted on the service call that this is common characteristic of the new RX body style .... once lexus comes up with a fix, it will be fixed under warranty.
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Is it really excessive noise vs the old model? Had the opportunity to ride in a 2015 rx350 and IMO there is a fair bit of engine motor noise that makes it into the cabin. The 2015 cabin is nowhere near as noise isolated as my es350 or a cadillac xt5 which I recently had for a day. There isn't much by way of noise suppression...is the new RX any better. Those who have owned other models please comment.
The 2010+ models got really bad (I unknowingly bought a 2013 CPO last year, and then a few months later sold it for a $5000 loss!!! because I could not stand the engine roughness and DRONE inside the cabin.) The 2010 - 2013 models had a very bad and harsh ride as well. I took my RX several times back to the dealer and drove several loaners. They all drove the same and my research indicates that this is an EXHAUST drone designed intentionally to produce exhaust noise to sound like a sports car (or some such hogwash thought up by the "brilliant" <sarcasm> new CEO of Lexus
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I very briefly considered moving to another brand. Even test drove a 2016 Acura MDX Advance, which is a 1000 times more refined (silky silky smooth V6 engine which you simply cannot even hear at idle). But as a loyal Lexus owner it is extremely difficult for me to move to another brand because there is absolutely NOTHING out there, even today, that comes remotely close to Lexus' BULLETPROOF RELIABILITY, which is one of THE MOST important purchase considerations for me (and should be for everyone who values their hard earned money).
In the end I still wanted to stay with Lexus and spent loads of time trying to find a model that is still reasonably refined, and I finally found one, and shockingly it has a 4 cylinder engine, for cryin out loud
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What baffles me is how most reviewers say how quiet and smooth the RX is. This is one of the noisiest vechicles I have owned
to date. Wind and road noise is actually worse than my Chevy Tahoe and the motor compared to the Tahoe is a joke.
Lexus may need to start taking tips from Chevy.
to date. Wind and road noise is actually worse than my Chevy Tahoe and the motor compared to the Tahoe is a joke.
Lexus may need to start taking tips from Chevy.
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No, the 2010 - 2015 RX is actually a very slightly worse. As you very rightfully stated there is a fair amount of engine noise AND VIBRATION entering the cabin of the RX. It all started with the 2004+ RX 330 (which was VERY slightly "rougher" and "noiser" than the original RX 300, which was a 6-cylinder DREAM in smoothness and quietness). The reason people did not notice it then, is because the difference was very subtle. I am a smoothness, ride-softness and refinement FANATIC. So I noticed it right away at that time, when I sat in a close friend's 2004 model.
The 2010+ models got really bad (I unknowingly bought a 2013 CPO last year, and then a few months later sold it for a $5000 loss!!! because I could not stand the engine roughness and DRONE inside the cabin.) The 2010 - 2013 models had a very bad and harsh ride as well. I took my RX several times back to the dealer and drove several loaners. They all drove the same and my research indicates that this is an EXHAUST drone designed intentionally to produce exhaust noise to sound like a sports car (or some such hogwash thought up by the "brilliant" <sarcasm> new CEO of Lexus
) .....totally unacceptable in a luxury vehicle!!
I very briefly considered moving to another brand. Even test drove a 2016 Acura MDX Advance, which is a 1000 times more refined (silky silky smooth V6 engine which you simply cannot even hear at idle). But as a loyal Lexus owner it is extremely difficult for me to move to another brand because there is absolutely NOTHING out there, even today, that comes remotely close to Lexus' BULLETPROOF RELIABILITY, which is one of THE MOST important purchase considerations for me (and should be for everyone who values their hard earned money).
In the end I still wanted to stay with Lexus and spent loads of time trying to find a model that is still reasonably refined, and I finally found one, and shockingly it has a 4 cylinder engine, for cryin out loud
Yesterday, I just bought a fully optioned out (including DRCC, pre-collision, ultra-luxury package, mark levinson) CPO 2014 ES 300h, and am really happy with how smooth and quiet the powertrain is. While I realize that the torquey electric motor helps in this regard, it is nevertheless a sad day when a 4 cylinder engine is so much smoother and quieter than a 6
(FYI, I extensively test drove the new RX 450h and its gas engine has an even louder drone than the 350, and when it comes on, it is not seamless at all).
The 2010+ models got really bad (I unknowingly bought a 2013 CPO last year, and then a few months later sold it for a $5000 loss!!! because I could not stand the engine roughness and DRONE inside the cabin.) The 2010 - 2013 models had a very bad and harsh ride as well. I took my RX several times back to the dealer and drove several loaners. They all drove the same and my research indicates that this is an EXHAUST drone designed intentionally to produce exhaust noise to sound like a sports car (or some such hogwash thought up by the "brilliant" <sarcasm> new CEO of Lexus
![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
I very briefly considered moving to another brand. Even test drove a 2016 Acura MDX Advance, which is a 1000 times more refined (silky silky smooth V6 engine which you simply cannot even hear at idle). But as a loyal Lexus owner it is extremely difficult for me to move to another brand because there is absolutely NOTHING out there, even today, that comes remotely close to Lexus' BULLETPROOF RELIABILITY, which is one of THE MOST important purchase considerations for me (and should be for everyone who values their hard earned money).
In the end I still wanted to stay with Lexus and spent loads of time trying to find a model that is still reasonably refined, and I finally found one, and shockingly it has a 4 cylinder engine, for cryin out loud
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Has anyone checked with a muffler shop to see if adding a resonator would cure this drone noise? When I test drove the regular RX, it sounded like a heat shield rattle or maybe a pipe hangar vibrating. They used to add resonators to the big old cars that had had a 440 or 500 cid engine and dual exhaust, but were meant to be luxury & not a hot rod.
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I had an Acura TL & it had a FANTASTIC V-6 engine, but a horrible transmission. I had to have the transmission replaced twice! I still miss that car for the sports car like steering. I looked at the RDX...can't tow anything & has crappy steering. I looked at the MDX...can only tow 1500 lbs (why bother?!), can't delete 3rd seat that I don't need, infotainment system was a confusing mess & the transmission was a complete train wreck. Acura lost my business. The RX has several downfalls, none of which are show stoppers for me & many positives (quality is still the best). Compare that to the Tahoe. The Chevy might have a refined engine, but the rest of the vehicle might fall apart around you! The Tahoe cant even come close to the fuel mileage the RX gets (at least on the 450h).
Has anyone checked with a muffler shop to see if adding a resonator would cure this drone noise? When I test drove the regular RX, it sounded like a heat shield rattle or maybe a pipe hangar vibrating. They used to add resonators to the big old cars that had had a 440 or 500 cid engine and dual exhaust, but were meant to be luxury & not a hot rod.
Has anyone checked with a muffler shop to see if adding a resonator would cure this drone noise? When I test drove the regular RX, it sounded like a heat shield rattle or maybe a pipe hangar vibrating. They used to add resonators to the big old cars that had had a 440 or 500 cid engine and dual exhaust, but were meant to be luxury & not a hot rod.
The Tahoe is more refined in every way and has excellent reliability. I can be unbiased since I own both.
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...orst/75275986/
Consumeraffairs.com didn't have much better things to say:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...csYJtU--VbwIfw
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