Remote start with just the remote!!
#256
Lexus Test Driver
#257
I guess a bit of good news that starting with 2018 Lexus reduced pricing on full app for ‘17 and older cars with enform remote start to just 160 a year.
if you buy a 2018 model the app will be free forever.
corrected: What is free (for 10 years) is the Safety Connect and Service Connect portions of the app, but there will still be an annual subscription fee of $80 per year for the Remote Start portion of the app and an $80 per year subscription fee for the (live) Destination Assist portion of the app. Also, that only applies to 5 Lexus models for the 2018 model year. For all other Lexus models, there will still be an annual subscription fee for Safety Connect, Service Connect, Destination Assist and Remote Start,
http://www.lexus.com/enform/availability-pricing
corrected: What is free (for 10 years) is the Safety Connect and Service Connect portions of the app, but there will still be an annual subscription fee of $80 per year for the Remote Start portion of the app and an $80 per year subscription fee for the (live) Destination Assist portion of the app. Also, that only applies to 5 Lexus models for the 2018 model year. For all other Lexus models, there will still be an annual subscription fee for Safety Connect, Service Connect, Destination Assist and Remote Start,
http://www.lexus.com/enform/availability-pricing
Last edited by Rarebird; 01-20-18 at 02:05 PM.
#259
Lead Lap
That is not correct. What is free (for 10 years) is the Safety Connect and Service Connect portions of the app, but there will still be an annual subscription fee of $80 per year for the Remote Start portion of the app and an $80 per year subscription fee for the (live) Destination Assist portion of the app. Also, that only applies to 5 Lexus models for the 2018 model year. For all other Lexus models, there will still be an annual subscription fee for Safety Connect, Service Connect, Destination Assist and Remote Start,
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#260
Lexus Test Driver
#262
Lead Lap
Plus, the 2018 RX is not even one of the 5 2018 Lexus models that gets the free Safety Connect and Service Connect for 10 years. The Lexus models that it does apply to are the 2018 NX, LS, RC, RC F, and LC. I'm not sure how Lexus decided to include only those 5 models, but I wouldn't be surprised if more models are added to the list in future years.
#263
Having the car shut off when you open the door IS NOT A SAFETY FEATURE! it's just dumb! I every other car I've owned, Jeep, Chevy, Nissan, they all require you to have the key on your person before you can drive off. No one else can drive off with the car.
#264
Lead Lap
You can prove that very easily. Start the car. Then, hand the key fob to someone outside of the car. You will find that you can still drive off even without the fob. But, if you try that, make sure that you don't shut the engine down before you get back to the person that you gave the key fob to because, if you shut the engine down and don't have the fob with you, you won't get it started until you do have the fob. .
I'm not sure why Lexus has designed the cars to work this way, but that is the way they do work.
#265
Lexus Test Driver
With Lexus vehicles, while you need to have the key fob with you to start the car, you don't need it to drive the car.
You can prove that very easily. Start the car. Then, hand the key fob to someone outside of the car. You will find that you can still drive off even without the fob. But, if you try that, make sure that you don't shut the engine down before you get back to the person that you gave the key fob to because, if you shut the engine down and don't have the fob with you, you won't get it started until you do have the fob. .
I'm not sure why Lexus has designed the cars to work this way, but that is the way they do work.
You can prove that very easily. Start the car. Then, hand the key fob to someone outside of the car. You will find that you can still drive off even without the fob. But, if you try that, make sure that you don't shut the engine down before you get back to the person that you gave the key fob to because, if you shut the engine down and don't have the fob with you, you won't get it started until you do have the fob. .
I'm not sure why Lexus has designed the cars to work this way, but that is the way they do work.
#267
The facts are that Lexus, IF they designed the car to not shut off when the door is opened after a remote they would also not allow the car to be drive off without the key. The fact that it can be driven off now is not the way the other cars are designed and in FACT is the way the Lexus should be designed. I do know the facts of the existing design! The existing design is pretty archaic, inconvenient and not user friendly for remote starting. There is really no need for the car to shut off after a remote start just because the door is opened. It's does not have to be that way and the car can be safely programmed to do otherwise as are most other brands of cars. AsI said, the Lexus design concept is is JUST DUMB!
#268
Lexus Champion
Other new cars shut off engine when door is open. So after getting into car, starting it again is such a pain?
#269
Lexus Test Driver
Could just be a security feature. The one GM car I had with remote start required the key to drive off (no push button start) bu it did leave the engine running after you unlocked the door. My Azera on the other hand will let you drive away without the fob IF you can open the door which of course requires the fob unless youre a thief.