Oil changes maintenance Schedule
#256
Adding on to what others said, but even if it is just labels and doesn't relate to base oils, the product labeled synthetic blend is a lower tier product with a lower tier additive pack that won't last as long as something that's labeled full synthetic. Doesn't matter how they got there, full synthetic is a term of art and indicator of real world performance.
You should use the higher tier product-something labelled full synthetic if you want to do 10k /12mo interval.
It makes sense to use blend if you are set to do do the 5k/6mo and dumping earlier than the book and you don't need the better longer lasting product.
You can do out the math, and if you shop for oil on sale you'll find there is not a lot of price difference, this is just shaving a few dollars here and there. Ultimately you can do what you want, if you're changing your oil at all, your car will probably be fine.
but the theory and logic of the oil obsessives land to 2 camps that balance price and protection. Both make logical sense
Folks who change more frequently and use the cheaper lower tier oil; Folks doing extended oil change use the higher quality but more expensive oil.
The Lexus 10k recommended schedule is more aligned with the expectation of the 2nd camp.
If you want to become more obsessed, you could buy and bring the oil of your choice to your indy and tell them to use that. Filter too Don't expect to get all your money back though usually though they will only give a $5-$10 discount max when customers bring their own oil and filter.
You should use the higher tier product-something labelled full synthetic if you want to do 10k /12mo interval.
It makes sense to use blend if you are set to do do the 5k/6mo and dumping earlier than the book and you don't need the better longer lasting product.
You can do out the math, and if you shop for oil on sale you'll find there is not a lot of price difference, this is just shaving a few dollars here and there. Ultimately you can do what you want, if you're changing your oil at all, your car will probably be fine.
but the theory and logic of the oil obsessives land to 2 camps that balance price and protection. Both make logical sense
Folks who change more frequently and use the cheaper lower tier oil; Folks doing extended oil change use the higher quality but more expensive oil.
The Lexus 10k recommended schedule is more aligned with the expectation of the 2nd camp.
If you want to become more obsessed, you could buy and bring the oil of your choice to your indy and tell them to use that. Filter too Don't expect to get all your money back though usually though they will only give a $5-$10 discount max when customers bring their own oil and filter.
Last edited by raytseng; 10-02-23 at 02:27 PM.
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ravenuer (10-02-23)
#257
I have (2) cars including my wife's RX and we both don't drive either vehicle 5k a year, but I change both with Full Synthetic every 12 months. I use Mobile 1 in my v8 and whatever Lexus uses in my wife's.
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#258
Amsoil is 100% synthetic oil, all made from synthetic products developed and made in Wisconsin USA. I've been using it for over 30 years.
Last edited by autotech13; 10-03-23 at 06:06 AM.
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#259
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https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/best-engine-oil/
Last edited by Freds430; 10-04-23 at 10:29 AM.
#261
Agree to disagree.
#262
I've also been an Amsoil user for 20 years at least. Probably the issue is the definition of "fully synthetic". Because the manufacturers, including Amsoil, are so proprietary and protective of their formulas and processes, you're never going to read exactly what is in it and where each ingredient came from. The base oil may or may not have been synthesized or derived somehow from petroleum. Here's the Wikipedia article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_oil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_oil
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ravenuer (10-04-23)
#263
When I was working and using my car a lot (average 60-80 miles a day). Then, I used Valvoline full syn and would change every 7500 miles. I believe I could go 10000 mile intervals if wanted. Now that I am retired and hardly using my car, I do regular oil and change every 3000 miles (this is for my new RX I bought last month).
Last edited by 15RX98422; 10-06-23 at 03:44 PM.
#265
When I was working and using my car a lot (average 60-80 miles a day). Then, I used Valvoline full syn and would change every 7500 miles. I believe I could go 100000 mile intervals if wanted. Now that I am retired and hardly using my car, I do regular oil and change every 3000 miles.
#266
Just use an approved oil (see manual b/c Lexus is always right) and change it regularly.
If you don't keep your vehicle beyond 100,000 then it really won't matter which approved oil you use or if you change every 3000, 5000, or 10,000 miles.
It is the person that drives it the next 100,000 miles after you that may see the problems if they occur.
If you don't keep your vehicle beyond 100,000 then it really won't matter which approved oil you use or if you change every 3000, 5000, or 10,000 miles.
It is the person that drives it the next 100,000 miles after you that may see the problems if they occur.
#267
After I saw this (3:40 in) I was on board with the 5000 mile interval. Lexus is not going to do anything on engine oil related failures out of warranty with the 10,000 interval. If you don't believe the Car Care Nut, search for his engine tear downs showing what happens with 100,000+ mile engines with once a year or 10,000 mile oil change intervals. If you do the recommend 5000 mile factory service intervals, spend the extra $80 for the oil change if you keep your car for years or high mileage. Go to a Toyota dealer who does inspection, rotation, and oil change for ~$120-140, still cheaper than just the 5000 service at a Lexus dealer. If you lease, or get rid of cars under 100,000 miles then keep at 10,000 miles as it will not be your problem.
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#268
#269
I do my own as well every 5000 miles.
$23 for 5 quarts of Penzoil 0W-20 Full Synthetic (check out Farm Project on YouTube for oil test results)....so $28 for service
$4 OEM Oil Filter (I buy bulk....10 at a time from online Toyota dealership) with drain gasket
Likewise the local Autozone takes the oil for free to recycle.
Rotate tires at same time as oil drains
Inspect the usual suspect. Brake pads, suspension components, etc Cabin and Engine filters OEM from online dealer as needed.
No appointment needed
Cold Beer waiting for me when I finish....after the car is back on the garage floor.
During Covid I did a full reno on my garage. Epoxy floors and a ton of LED lights. Working on the car is actually enjoyable with the floor and light upgrades
$23 for 5 quarts of Penzoil 0W-20 Full Synthetic (check out Farm Project on YouTube for oil test results)....so $28 for service
$4 OEM Oil Filter (I buy bulk....10 at a time from online Toyota dealership) with drain gasket
Likewise the local Autozone takes the oil for free to recycle.
Rotate tires at same time as oil drains
Inspect the usual suspect. Brake pads, suspension components, etc Cabin and Engine filters OEM from online dealer as needed.
No appointment needed
Cold Beer waiting for me when I finish....after the car is back on the garage floor.
During Covid I did a full reno on my garage. Epoxy floors and a ton of LED lights. Working on the car is actually enjoyable with the floor and light upgrades
@Quantum501 do you have a link to buy the Toyota oil filters in bulk (10 pack) from the online dealership please?
#270
@Quantum501 do you have a link to buy the Toyota oil filters in bulk (10 pack) from the online dealership please?
https://parts.nucartoyotanorthattleboro.com
I have no idea if anything changed as far as prices or customer service.
Then I had to go to local dealership for coolant (which isn't shipped) and the guy matched all of the prices online. So now I just do that. Highly recommend a real Toyota dealership or in person to avoid counterfeit parts.
Last edited by Quantum501; 01-22-24 at 06:52 AM.
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