I am beginning to hate the Navigation in my 4RX (merged threads)
08-14-20, 10:40 AM
#136
Exactly why I didn't want to pay extra for a Nav on my 2020. The only thing I miss from my 2016 Nav is the screen resolution is lower using carplay on the 2020.
08-14-20, 12:24 PM
#137
I (or to be exact, my wife) still have mixed feelings about navigation system in vehicles.
In general, we mostly use Waze/Google Map via Apple CarPlay. But when we travel to areas with no or limited cell coverage (Three Rivers, Lake Berryessa, ...), the in-car navigation system becomes the sole source.
So, my wife wants navigation system with all the vehicles we buy. It's better to have it and not need it than to need it than not have it.
In general, we mostly use Waze/Google Map via Apple CarPlay. But when we travel to areas with no or limited cell coverage (Three Rivers, Lake Berryessa, ...), the in-car navigation system becomes the sole source.
So, my wife wants navigation system with all the vehicles we buy. It's better to have it and not need it than to need it than not have it.
08-14-20, 12:39 PM
#138
I (or to be exact, my wife) still have mixed feelings about navigation system in vehicles.
In general, we mostly use Waze/Google Map via Apple CarPlay. But when we travel to areas with no or limited cell coverage (Three Rivers, Lake Berryessa, ...), the in-car navigation system becomes the sole source.
So, my wife wants navigation system with all the vehicles we buy. It's better to have it and not need it than to need it than not have it.
In general, we mostly use Waze/Google Map via Apple CarPlay. But when we travel to areas with no or limited cell coverage (Three Rivers, Lake Berryessa, ...), the in-car navigation system becomes the sole source.
So, my wife wants navigation system with all the vehicles we buy. It's better to have it and not need it than to need it than not have it.
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coolbrazz (08-14-20)
08-15-20, 06:58 AM
#139
In general most OEM navigation systems are bad but Lexus has the worst of the worst. According to car reviewers even Toyota has a better tech setup.
Lexus probably dumped millions of millions into developing this setup so now they will try to improve it with little tweaks here and there instead of admitting it was garbage to begin with cut there losses and start over.
When I first got the car I loved the navigation but quickly reverted back to using Waze on my iPhone. I had a loaner 2020 with CarPlay and it truly made me consider trading in my 2019. I prefer my 19’s screen placement which is to the far back opposed to the 20 since it has a touch screen it all the way to the front so I might try the Chinese integration device first.
Lexus probably dumped millions of millions into developing this setup so now they will try to improve it with little tweaks here and there instead of admitting it was garbage to begin with cut there losses and start over.
When I first got the car I loved the navigation but quickly reverted back to using Waze on my iPhone. I had a loaner 2020 with CarPlay and it truly made me consider trading in my 2019. I prefer my 19’s screen placement which is to the far back opposed to the 20 since it has a touch screen it all the way to the front so I might try the Chinese integration device first.
08-17-20, 10:50 AM
#140
Lexus Test Driver
The hit you'll take on resale/trade in later on may more than offset the initial cost of NAV. Of course, if you're keeping the car many years, it won't matter.
08-17-20, 12:46 PM
#141
In general most OEM navigation systems are bad but Lexus has the worst of the worst. According to car reviewers even Toyota has a better tech setup.
Lexus probably dumped millions of millions into developing this setup so now they will try to improve it with little tweaks here and there instead of admitting it was garbage to begin with cut there losses and start over.
Lexus probably dumped millions of millions into developing this setup so now they will try to improve it with little tweaks here and there instead of admitting it was garbage to begin with cut there losses and start over.
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mikemu30 (08-17-20)
08-17-20, 06:51 PM
#142
Back when I was 18 and I’d just joined the electrical Union I didn’t really know roads beyond what was local to me. The union had me traveling all over the state and this was pre Garmin or Tom Toms. This is when the night before you would have to print yahoo maps directions. I can’t tell you how many times I got lost when it would tell me to turn right on State Highway 508 or something like that but it’s really called Market Street. Back when I was a first level apprentice making 11.48 an hour best $550 I’ve ever spent was on a Garmin Nuvi 350!!!
I'm a map person -- once I've seen where an address is on a map, I don't need the lady telling me which way to turn. However, in demonstrating the nav in my car to a friend one day, I learned that Google and Lexus do not always agree on the name of the road. Be careful if an address has a "Route" or a "State Route" or "Highway" or anything like that in it.
08-17-20, 07:18 PM
#143
My ‘20 Rx450 Nav is actually better than I expected compared to the nav in the Lexus I owned before. But I keep going back to Google maps via CarPlay b/c of how much better Google maps is. The Lexus Nav system is adequate.
08-17-20, 07:26 PM
#144
Admittedly, I used Lexus Nav more in the early days of owning this new Lexus, but over the last couple of months find myself not using the Lexus Nav as my primary means.
08-18-20, 10:49 AM
#145
Driver School Candidate
I'm not happy with the navigation on my 2020 F-Sport. I asked the service manager today if there's a way to update the navigation system because it's not showing a new major freeway that has been open for the last six months. He told me I could buy an upgrade for it in October when the new upgrades come out. First, I thought I get three years of automatic upgrades and second I thought that the new navigation system in 2020 update continuously not just once a year. Does anybody know how these maps get updated and how often? I don't think the service manager that I spoke with knows exactly what's going on. Thanks
08-18-20, 11:44 AM
#146
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coolbrazz (08-18-20)
08-18-20, 02:41 PM
#147
Ha ha ha -- too funny! FYI, once upon a time there was something called a "road map", printed on folded paper, that you could buy in any gas station for about $1.50. People used to use those to drive to an unfamiliar location. There was no such thing as a map on a screen, nor any directions that you could look up.
08-18-20, 05:16 PM
#148
Well, "zoom out" on the 12" nav map display is a usable substitute for a real map, in my F-Sport. What I actually find that is new and useful is the view of street and road names as you find your way through an unfamiliar urban or suburban area, when you are looking for a particular street.
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coolbrazz (08-18-20)
08-19-20, 06:52 AM
#149
Lexus Test Driver
Ha ha ha -- too funny! FYI, once upon a time there was something called a "road map", printed on folded paper, that you could buy in any gas station for about $1.50. People used to use those to drive to an unfamiliar location. There was no such thing as a map on a screen, nor any directions that you could look up.
Or remember AAA triptiks?
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gadgetman1 (04-08-21)
08-19-20, 08:22 AM
#150