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Old 01-27-22, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ViktorG
Hello again,
I am a Lexus Master Technician and I am creating a series of maintenance/repair tutorial videos covering the 2016-2022 Lexus RX models.
Here is my video showing how to release the electric parking brake to allow for rear brake pad replacement 2020-2022 RX models.
(This method will not work on 2016-2019 models, video on that will be coming in the near future).
Well done, Victor. Thank you for all of your excellent contributions.
Old 05-17-22, 03:33 AM
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Default Brakes and Rotors

On my 2019 RX, Lexus Service advisor (who I trust) quoted $500-$600 to replace brakes and resurface rotors. Going to a reputable tire shop is almost 50% less.
Advisor stated, with brakes you get what you pay for, a tire shop is not going to use Lexus parts which alone is a big difference.

Would appreciate any thoughts or past experiences on this.
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So for $600 they are replacing brake pads is that front and back? How many miles on your car?
Old 05-17-22, 07:26 AM
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I'm not a fan of resurfacing rotors. If they're bad, replace them.
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Have 46k. All original pads and rotors
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Originally Posted by dsvetcov
On my 2019 RX, Lexus Service advisor (who I trust) quoted $500-$600 to replace brakes and resurface rotors. Going to a reputable tire shop is almost 50% less.
Advisor stated, with brakes you get what you pay for, a tire shop is not going to use Lexus parts which alone is a big difference.

Would appreciate any thoughts or past experiences on this.
Thanks,
David
Buy your OEM parts from a discounted dealer parts supplier such as Bell Lexus. You can call/email them to get the correct parts numbers. They should be having a memorial day sale soon on top of it. Then find an independent shop that will let you bring them the parts to install. Worst case, the independent shop orders the oem parts and charges you their markup but it should still be less than the dealer.
Old 06-07-22, 12:49 PM
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Question Excessive brake replacement

I have a 2017 Rx350 that I bought CPO. I have had the front and rear brakes replaced twice now about once per year b/c they start vibrating excessively. The car has less than 80k miles. My mechanic uses OEM parts and has been replacing the brakes on his warranty but it’s not how brakes should work. I suspect the cause is that Lexus engineers designed everything to minimum gage to reduce weight to meet government mileage requirements resulting in rotors that are too thin to withstand the heat generated in routine everyday use. I’m a structural design engineer so I’ve seen this sort of engineering thought before. Has anyone else experienced this or have any suggestions as to how to break the cycle of constant replacement? Has anyone tried non-OEM rotors and/or pads? I appreciate any help or suggestions I can get. I will probably never buy another Lexus b/c of this issue. My 2002 Highlander that had 262k miles never had this issue.
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Originally Posted by Rhys
I have a 2017 Rx350 that I bought CPO. I have had the front and rear brakes replaced twice now about once per year b/c they start vibrating excessively. The car has less than 80k miles. My mechanic uses OEM parts and has been replacing the brakes on his warranty but it’s not how brakes should work. I suspect the cause is that Lexus engineers designed everything to minimum gage to reduce weight to meet government mileage requirements resulting in rotors that are too thin to withstand the heat generated in routine everyday use. I’m a structural design engineer so I’ve seen this sort of engineering thought before. Has anyone else experienced this or have any suggestions as to how to break the cycle of constant replacement? Has anyone tried non-OEM rotors and/or pads? I appreciate any help or suggestions I can get. I will probably never buy another Lexus b/c of this issue. My 2002 Highlander that had 262k miles never had this issue.

Brake pads get replaced because they wear thin not because they are vibrating. Why are they vibrating? Try a different mechanic.
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Brake vibration is most commonly caused by warped rotors. Rotor warp is most commonly caused by over-torquing the wheel lug nuts. Mechanics accustomed to servicing Detroit-designed cars will be shocked to learn that the Toyota/Lexus lug nut torque spec for RX 350 is 76 ft/lb.

Chevrolet/GMC wheel lug nut torque spec is typically 140 ft/lb.


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RHYS, It's not clear if you replace or machine the rotors along with the pads. Like others say on here, pads don't cause vibration, rotors do that. I had a 17 RX and never had any problems. I would say if you replace (no machining) the rotors and pads with OEM parts AND as dibl says, torque the wheels properly, I don't see you having any problems.
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Many times it's not warped rotors at all but rather pad material adhered to the rotors. I had that with my ES, a few good stomps on the pedal cleaned them up and they were good thereafter.
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Thanks. I’ll pass that on to my mechanic and see what he says. He’s been taking care of my family 25 years and is a very honest guy so I don’t think he is the problem but I’ll ask him about the torque. Good advice!
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I’ll try stomping the brakestoo. When the wife is not in the car of course 😃😃
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Originally Posted by Rhys
Thanks. I’ll pass that on to my mechanic and see what he says. He’s been taking care of my family 25 years and is a very honest guy so I don’t think he is the problem but I’ll ask him about the torque. Good advice!
But did he replace or machine the rotors?
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Originally Posted by dibl
Brake vibration is most commonly caused by warped rotors. Rotor warp is most commonly caused by over-torquing the wheel lug nuts.
None of this is true.
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