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Old 08-08-24, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by kalvink
From the mid to late 2000s on, Toyota/Lexus moved to a new fluid, ATF WS (world standard) that is considered to be a lifetime fluid. The drain plug has a little straw in it that is used to bleed off extra ATF after the transmission is up to temperature. If you are planning to change it out, it would be good to get a OBD2 reader so you can see what the temperature of the fluid/transmission is. The fill plug is along the side of the transmission, accessible through the wheel well and the bolt has a "WS" stamped on it.
Depending on your driving habits and/or towing, you may want to change the fluid from 60-100k. Most people don't bother doing it at home since it's pretty hands-on. Dealers don't recommend it, but will do a fluid exchange for a fee. I've seen prices from $200-300.

I've seen people do the 2-3 quart fluid change out over the span of 3-4k miles. The filter nowadays is mainly the mesh type.
The diff oil is a standard gear oil type change out. There are a few youtube vids on the 3rd gen that can be applied to the 4th.
The fluid was a light brown, which means it was degrading. I'm doing another drain/fill in 10k miles. The trans shifts smoother now. Toyota's lifetime fluid is total BS.
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Originally Posted by Rx350driver
The lifetime fluid is BS, nothing is lifetime. I just did a drain and fill at 100k miles, will do another in 10k miles. This way, my tranny doesn't blow up at 150k miles. What does Toyota define as "lifetime", the powertrain warranty period?
Did you actually read the manual, it says to replace transmission oil in certain driving conditions.
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On my 21 RX350 @17k, the dealer did a drain and fill with 1gal of HPL green cc. This is a pre-certified and wanted a clean start from the get go. Also did the transfer case and differential were drain/fill since it had a tow-hitch and I couldn’t tell whether it was towing a bike rack or horse 🐎 trailer.
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Did you actually read the manual, it says to replace transmission oil in certain driving conditions.
I did, but even under optimal conditions, I'd change it at 60k miles. Tranny fluid is cheap, transmissions are not.
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I do a complete fluid change at 30,000 miles.

My dealer uses equipment designed for that purpose.

It's around a 95% change.

Transmission have many thin channels and friction plates for the fluid to travel.

They do begin to clog overtime, the friction plates being to rely on the accumulated material

if you're at 60,000, you're best to do a drain and fill and not a complete change.

At 30K, I can confidently do a full change of fluid.

Toyota used Aisin Transmission Fluid. That's the best.
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It would be a good idea to maintain solid documentation of any fluid changes. When and if you go to sell the car the buyer will see you took good care of not only the tranny but they will assume everything else. Makes it an easier sale.
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Originally Posted by GoBose
I do a complete fluid change at 30,000 miles.

My dealer uses equipment designed for that purpose.

It's around a 95% change.

Transmission have many thin channels and friction plates for the fluid to travel.

They do begin to clog overtime, the friction plates being to rely on the accumulated material

if you're at 60,000, you're best to do a drain and fill and not a complete change.

At 30K, I can confidently do a full change of fluid.

Toyota used Aisin Transmission Fluid. That's the best.
I am not trying to nit pick but the suggestion that debris will clog needs to be compared to my latest dealer flush&filter change on my 14 Toyota Venza @121K. I have pics and a q-tip swab. Yes, I have done flushes at 40,88 and 121k miles. If anything that would clog with debris would be the filter 1st.










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I did a drain and fill on my rx at 100k miles, bought it used and didn't know the service history. The fluid was light brown, really wasn't bad for 100k miles. I'll do another drain/fill in 10k miles.
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Originally Posted by Rx350driver
The fluid was a light brown, which means it was degrading. I'm doing another drain/fill in 10k miles. The trans shifts smoother now. Toyota's lifetime fluid is total BS.
So you are telling members on the forum to change the fluid. Please state years experience with Lexus/Toyota and transmission repair. My Lexus Shop Manager 21 years experience and a friend said it never needs to be changed as per Lexus. He went to the transmission factory to be trained and asked them was is the number one cause of transmission failure. Wrong fluid wrong amount/level both one is faces when changing. One million miles on six Lexus's and of course not one transmission problem.
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Originally Posted by Freds430
So you are telling members on the forum to change the fluid. Please state years experience with Lexus/Toyota and transmission repair. My Lexus Shop Manager 21 years experience and a friend said it never needs to be changed as per Lexus. He went to the transmission factory to be trained and asked them was is the number one cause of transmission failure. Wrong fluid wrong amount/level both one is faces when changing. One million miles on six Lexus's and of course not one transmission problem.
The magical original fluid. What is super odd is you can't buy fluid that is exactly like the old fluid in your transmission which is infallible.
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I used aisin ws fluid, drained 3.5 quarts. It definitely shifts smoother now. No fluid is lifetime, which to me is 200k + miles.
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Originally Posted by Freds430
So you are telling members on the forum to change the fluid. Please state years experience with Lexus/Toyota and transmission repair. My Lexus Shop Manager 21 years experience and a friend said it never needs to be changed as per Lexus. He went to the transmission factory to be trained and asked them was is the number one cause of transmission failure. Wrong fluid wrong amount/level both one is faces when changing. One million miles on six Lexus's and of course not one transmission problem.
Maybe your friend that went to the "transmission factory" was brain washed.
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Originally Posted by jcg0324
Maybe your friend that went to the "transmission factory" was brain washed.
And why would that happen?

This is 2024, so many people still think of cars from decades ago, and the Fords GM, Chrysler crap products. All these excessive fluid changes line the pockets of mechanics and oil companies.
I'm the same as this other person, millions of kms, always done what the book says and never have had engine or transmission problems.
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Aisin tells you to change the fluid.
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dealers make most of there profits from service and not sales


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