Lexus Navigation Map Update
02-03-23, 05:33 AM
#211
I removed the lexus application from my phone, since I have a 17 and was cut off from everything including the remote start. not sure if this is needed for the app suite,
02-04-23, 10:40 AM
#212
You'll need the app suite on your phone. I connect via Bluetooth, launch the app, log in, and form the name of my car at the top click the drop-down anc lick App Suite.
Much more complicated than it used to be.
Much more complicated than it used to be.
02-06-23, 11:52 AM
#213
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02-13-23, 12:03 PM
#214
Driver School Candidate
"Go To Address"
debating the update, i use to use the Lexus application, to set favorites, then it was super easy to set the destination once in the car.
since the car has no network communication anymore, guess I'll have to see about other ways to enter an address, vs using my phone for navigation
since the car has no network communication anymore, guess I'll have to see about other ways to enter an address, vs using my phone for navigation
02-14-23, 07:06 AM
#215
You can also use Alexa. Since Lexus added Lexus to the app suite it's easiest to ask Alexa for directions since Alexa can also respond to questions like "Where is the nearest ____" and it will use the in-dash map/voice for guidance. Much better and faster than Lexus's nav system.
02-23-23, 10:02 AM
#216
After spending an afternoon on this blog and a few other sites I hope maybe my lessons learned will help the next poor SOB who is searching for the "right" answer. I was trying to figure out how to update the 2013 map database in a 2015 RX350 we inherited from my 92 yr old MIL, hopefully for FREE! I learned:
1. Toyota/Lexus has both a nav hardware version designator and a software number. See the attached chart (also published by other bloggers on this site).
2. For the 2013 - 2015 RX 350 the nav system hardware version is "generation 7" and the latest software version is "PT219-HDD07-19", Note this chart says "-17" as it was published a while ago, but the latest software for the gen 7 is -19 from other posts (some call it 19.1) with current map data probably from late 2018.
3. For the 2015 RX350 the load is still via USB. RX350 didn't get the SD card until 2016 with the generation 9 hardware (some other models got it as early as 2014).
4. The dealer will have you believe you can ONLY get the update by making an appointment to get the specific part number (PT219-HDD07-19) downloaded from a special crypto isolated NSA quality Lexus server directly to a secret squirrel computer at the dealer then via their USB to your car. All for $150-$250 and an hour of labor so $200 - $300.
5. You can get a code for the pirated software update on the internet for as cheap as $75. Some say this could be "Russian" hacked software and not a real update. Personally, from what I know of Russian "capitalism" they would be happy to sell real hacked Japanese software to the rest of the world for a profit.
6. Those with 2016 or newer RX350's (with gen 9 hardware or newer) can get a 2022 map update (with late 2021 data) on a sim card from the dealer, per above, or cheaper after some internet searching.
7. So, I can upgrade my RX350 maps to a database that is almost 5 years old for $75 to $300 based on source.
HOWEVER, WHY WOULD I DO THAT ? Since people like to use their smartphones for navigation and other apps (streaming audio and video), and those apps are updated daily, car manufacturers are including Android Auto or Apple Carplay software in their nav systems so you can use them on, and control them from, your car "nav head" and steering wheel buttons. Why would they want to spend money updating a car system when they can use the smartphone updates for free ? Toyota/Lexus finally got on board this technology around 2018.
You make your choice, I've made mine.
1. Toyota/Lexus has both a nav hardware version designator and a software number. See the attached chart (also published by other bloggers on this site).
2. For the 2013 - 2015 RX 350 the nav system hardware version is "generation 7" and the latest software version is "PT219-HDD07-19", Note this chart says "-17" as it was published a while ago, but the latest software for the gen 7 is -19 from other posts (some call it 19.1) with current map data probably from late 2018.
3. For the 2015 RX350 the load is still via USB. RX350 didn't get the SD card until 2016 with the generation 9 hardware (some other models got it as early as 2014).
4. The dealer will have you believe you can ONLY get the update by making an appointment to get the specific part number (PT219-HDD07-19) downloaded from a special crypto isolated NSA quality Lexus server directly to a secret squirrel computer at the dealer then via their USB to your car. All for $150-$250 and an hour of labor so $200 - $300.
5. You can get a code for the pirated software update on the internet for as cheap as $75. Some say this could be "Russian" hacked software and not a real update. Personally, from what I know of Russian "capitalism" they would be happy to sell real hacked Japanese software to the rest of the world for a profit.
6. Those with 2016 or newer RX350's (with gen 9 hardware or newer) can get a 2022 map update (with late 2021 data) on a sim card from the dealer, per above, or cheaper after some internet searching.
7. So, I can upgrade my RX350 maps to a database that is almost 5 years old for $75 to $300 based on source.
HOWEVER, WHY WOULD I DO THAT ? Since people like to use their smartphones for navigation and other apps (streaming audio and video), and those apps are updated daily, car manufacturers are including Android Auto or Apple Carplay software in their nav systems so you can use them on, and control them from, your car "nav head" and steering wheel buttons. Why would they want to spend money updating a car system when they can use the smartphone updates for free ? Toyota/Lexus finally got on board this technology around 2018.
You make your choice, I've made mine.
09-25-23, 06:20 PM
#218
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I am hoping someone can point me positively in the right direction. Dealing with maps with my Ford is simple....
My poor wife on the other hand is driving around with 7-year old maps. I'd sure like to help her out with her maps.
We are talking about a 2016 RX350 - VIN starts with 2T .
I have seen references and even a video or two that indicate/say I want a part PT219-GEN09-21.
However, I have also found PT219-GEN09-22 and PT219-GEN09-23 which appear to just be newer version of same.
When I try to purchase any of these I see this....
Products may not fit the VIN provided at checkout.. Please contact us to confirm fitment.
or
Unable to verify part fitment for your vehicle:
Is there anyone that can verify that PT219-GEN09-21, PT219-GEN09-22 and PT219-GEN09-23 will indeed be the correct SD card Maps update for a 2016 RX350 (VIN starts with 2T)?
Set me straight please!
Thanks very much!
David
My poor wife on the other hand is driving around with 7-year old maps. I'd sure like to help her out with her maps.
We are talking about a 2016 RX350 - VIN starts with 2T .
I have seen references and even a video or two that indicate/say I want a part PT219-GEN09-21.
However, I have also found PT219-GEN09-22 and PT219-GEN09-23 which appear to just be newer version of same.
When I try to purchase any of these I see this....
Products may not fit the VIN provided at checkout.. Please contact us to confirm fitment.
or
Unable to verify part fitment for your vehicle:
Is there anyone that can verify that PT219-GEN09-21, PT219-GEN09-22 and PT219-GEN09-23 will indeed be the correct SD card Maps update for a 2016 RX350 (VIN starts with 2T)?
Set me straight please!
Thanks very much!
David
10-02-23, 08:51 AM
#219
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I own a 2016 RX350. Dealer kept telling me the latest map update I could get was a 2018. However, with all the information on this site I went ahead and ordered (from the Dealer LOL) p/n PT219-GEN09-22. Installed it in seconds and it works perfectly. Even the parts department told me it would work which is why I got it there in case it didn't. If there is a 23 available, it will work also and is easy to install. Instructions are in various places on this site. I just followed them. The map works great but using the navigation is a pain. I do use it occasionally with voice commands but have recently purchased an external carplay device from Amazon and love it. It does take away from the nice looks of the Lexus but who cares if it updates my car so I don't have to buy a new one. I only have 53K and it's in perfect condition.
Hope that helps!
Hope that helps!
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10-09-23, 11:06 AM
#221
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12-24-23, 06:04 PM
#222
4th gen nav update knowledge needed
Hey folks. My mother in law has a 2019 RX 350 and apparently the nav system that came with it has maps that are no longer valid. In fact tonight she tried to drive to my town for the holidays and she lost cell service and the entire town shows zero detail on her nav system. She was lost for over an hour and freaked out.
She says the dealer wants $200+ in order to update the nav system to the current data but this seems dubious to me. (I have a 2010 RX350 so I don’t know of this is true or not.)
To me, and coming from another car brand, the idea of paying for nav system updates is…ludicrous and highly suspect. I never had to pay for updates on previous or even my other current vehicles (Jeep and Infiiniti.)
Of course, I initially thought if anyone knows if this is true, complete BS, or if there’s a cheaper aftermarket or another way to do this, it would be you guys.
Love to hear your thoughts or even work arounds.
She says the dealer wants $200+ in order to update the nav system to the current data but this seems dubious to me. (I have a 2010 RX350 so I don’t know of this is true or not.)
To me, and coming from another car brand, the idea of paying for nav system updates is…ludicrous and highly suspect. I never had to pay for updates on previous or even my other current vehicles (Jeep and Infiiniti.)
Of course, I initially thought if anyone knows if this is true, complete BS, or if there’s a cheaper aftermarket or another way to do this, it would be you guys.
Love to hear your thoughts or even work arounds.
12-24-23, 07:48 PM
#223
Hey folks. My mother in law has a 2019 RX 350 and apparently the nav system that came with it has maps that are no longer valid. In fact tonight she tried to drive to my town for the holidays and she lost cell service and the entire town shows zero detail on her nav system. She was lost for over an hour and freaked out.
She says the dealer wants $200+ in order to update the nav system to the current data but this seems dubious to me. (I have a 2010 RX350 so I don’t know of this is true or not.)
To me, and coming from another car brand, the idea of paying for nav system updates is…ludicrous and highly suspect. I never had to pay for updates on previous or even my other current vehicles (Jeep and Infiiniti.)
Of course, I initially thought if anyone knows if this is true, complete BS, or if there’s a cheaper aftermarket or another way to do this, it would be you guys.
Love to hear your thoughts or even work arounds.
She says the dealer wants $200+ in order to update the nav system to the current data but this seems dubious to me. (I have a 2010 RX350 so I don’t know of this is true or not.)
To me, and coming from another car brand, the idea of paying for nav system updates is…ludicrous and highly suspect. I never had to pay for updates on previous or even my other current vehicles (Jeep and Infiiniti.)
Of course, I initially thought if anyone knows if this is true, complete BS, or if there’s a cheaper aftermarket or another way to do this, it would be you guys.
Love to hear your thoughts or even work arounds.
12-25-23, 06:27 AM
#224
Racer
Hey folks. My mother in law has a 2019 RX 350 and apparently the nav system that came with it has maps that are no longer valid. In fact tonight she tried to drive to my town for the holidays and she lost cell service and the entire town shows zero detail on her nav system. She was lost for over an hour and freaked out.
She says the dealer wants $200+ in order to update the nav system to the current data but this seems dubious to me. (I have a 2010 RX350 so I don’t know of this is true or not.)
To me, and coming from another car brand, the idea of paying for nav system updates is…ludicrous and highly suspect. I never had to pay for updates on previous or even my other current vehicles (Jeep and Infiiniti.)
Of course, I initially thought if anyone knows if this is true, complete BS, or if there’s a cheaper aftermarket or another way to do this, it would be you guys.
Love to hear your thoughts or even work arounds.
She says the dealer wants $200+ in order to update the nav system to the current data but this seems dubious to me. (I have a 2010 RX350 so I don’t know of this is true or not.)
To me, and coming from another car brand, the idea of paying for nav system updates is…ludicrous and highly suspect. I never had to pay for updates on previous or even my other current vehicles (Jeep and Infiiniti.)
Of course, I initially thought if anyone knows if this is true, complete BS, or if there’s a cheaper aftermarket or another way to do this, it would be you guys.
Love to hear your thoughts or even work arounds.
12-25-23, 08:29 AM
#225
Moderator
Hey folks. My mother in law has a 2019 RX 350 and apparently the nav system that came with it has maps that are no longer valid. In fact tonight she tried to drive to my town for the holidays and she lost cell service and the entire town shows zero detail on her nav system. She was lost for over an hour and freaked out.
She says the dealer wants $200+ in order to update the nav system to the current data but this seems dubious to me. (I have a 2010 RX350 so I don’t know of this is true or not.)
To me, and coming from another car brand, the idea of paying for nav system updates is…ludicrous and highly suspect. I never had to pay for updates on previous or even my other current vehicles (Jeep and Infiiniti.)
Of course, I initially thought if anyone knows if this is true, complete BS, or if there’s a cheaper aftermarket or another way to do this, it would be you guys.
Love to hear your thoughts or even work arounds.
She says the dealer wants $200+ in order to update the nav system to the current data but this seems dubious to me. (I have a 2010 RX350 so I don’t know of this is true or not.)
To me, and coming from another car brand, the idea of paying for nav system updates is…ludicrous and highly suspect. I never had to pay for updates on previous or even my other current vehicles (Jeep and Infiiniti.)
Of course, I initially thought if anyone knows if this is true, complete BS, or if there’s a cheaper aftermarket or another way to do this, it would be you guys.
Love to hear your thoughts or even work arounds.
No longer valid is like "stale" or not the latest data ... which is very different from "Nav not operative" or blank display.
We all know that even the latest yearly release is technically "stale" as it is at least 3 months old. I am driving with at least 5 yr old data with no loss of Nav.
It seems there is an issue with the Nav system that it stopped functioning. So if you have the patience and time talk to Lexus service and convey to them that problem is with Nav shutdown or going inoperative. They may try to sell you the latest maps (data) but even with the new data your system may suffer from the same ailment.
With electronics, most off the time strange behavior can be "reset" with a restart [turn off the vehicle and restart]. A more drastic reset can be accomplished by removing 12v supply but it has its own set of issues.
Salim
PS: I am accustomed to maps data stored on the vehicle [which seems the case as you are being offered new data]. Some times later (model based)~2018 Lexus provides latest data/traffic directly .. no need to purchase for updates or pay for live traffic
Last edited by salimshah; 12-25-23 at 08:34 AM.