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I swapped out the OEM Bridgestone Ecopias today for the Michelin CrossClimate2. At 32.6K miles the Ecopias had a hair under 5/32nds of tread left. I noticed last week driving in heavy rain on the interstate that the RX got a little squirrelly hitting standing water. At least one of them was cupped produced an irritating whine, as I've mentioned in prior posts. I could have driven them further but decided to go ahead and swap them on the last day of the $70 Michelin rebate. The 20" 235/55R20 102V was $295 each, including balance and disposal fees and before rebate. I also had the car aligned for $90.
All I can say so far is the tire whine is gone. Hopefully they live up to the hype and positive reviews others on this forum have given, and my brother's positive remarks. They aren't a very good looking tire, though I'll likely not notice after a while.
Question for those that have these: do you run the 4th gen faceplate 33 lbs, or something else?
I have installed CrossClimate 2's on my kids' cars (2008 RAV4 and 2012 Camry). I haven't driven the RAV4 much, but when driving the Camry it seems like car wanders within the lane (like you're driving in gusty winds). Someone posted this issue in a different forum and now I'm not sure if I've sensing this because I read about it. I was planning on putting the CC2's on our 2018 F Sport, but now I'm not so sure. I have dedicated winter wheels/tires, so I'm not concerned about snow traction. I'm a huge Michelin person, and want a quiet, smooth riding tire with good tread wear. Have heard good things about Continental CrossContacts, but am reluctant to buy anything except Michelin since I've always liked them until these. Have you noticed this at all?
I have installed CrossClimate 2's on my kids' cars (2008 RAV4 and 2012 Camry). I haven't driven the RAV4 much, but when driving the Camry it seems like car wanders within the lane (like you're driving in gusty winds). Someone posted this issue in a different forum and now I'm not sure if I've sensing this because I read about it. I was planning on putting the CC2's on our 2018 F Sport, but now I'm not so sure. I have dedicated winter wheels/tires, so I'm not concerned about snow traction. I'm a huge Michelin person, and want a quiet, smooth riding tire with good tread wear. Have heard good things about Continental CrossContacts, but am reluctant to buy anything except Michelin since I've always liked them until these. Have you noticed this at all?
I haven't noticed any wandering; in fact, the RX feels a bit more planted than it did with the worn Ecopia's. What amazes me about this tire is that it is quiet. The open shoulder looks like it would cause a lot of noise. I may be getting a little poorer gas mileage with these, but it's really too soon to tell and not a big deal to me. I might do some math on tire sizes to see if size difference could be causing lower reported mileage.
So far I'm very pleased with these tires. My use case, though, is for a quiet all-season tire that works well in the snow and rain. If snow traction is not a big deal, there are a lot of other options out there. Folks I trust on this forum rave about the Goodyear Assurance MaxLife tires. I recommended them to my son for his Subaru Outback, and he is pleased with them.
ugg, going back and forth here on tires CrossContact LX25 vs Defender ltx, anyone have any thoughts on this ??
still have the OE Michelin with 45k miles on them, at 4/32 so time to replace them. i have been happy with the handling and road feel, plus they are very quiet. need to pull the trigger in the next couple weeks.
most of my driving is 600-1200 mile days, some around town but I would say under 2k miles for the year at best local.
I went from a defender type Michelin to a lx20 and the handling was better on my 4x4, but different sidewall size.
thanks much for your time
ugg, going back and forth here on tires CrossContact LX25 vs Defender ltx, anyone have any thoughts on this ??
still have the OE Michelin with 45k miles on them, at 4/32 so time to replace them. i have been happy with the handling and road feel, plus they are very quiet. need to pull the trigger in the next couple weeks.
most of my driving is 600-1200 mile days, some around town but I would say under 2k miles for the year at best local.
I went from a defender type Michelin to a lx20 and the handling was better on my 4x4, but different sidewall size.
thanks much for your time
I can't help you with the comparison, but I know that the Michelin Defender does not come in the 18" size. It is available for 20" size.
Sounds like you were happy with your Michelins, so why not go with them? I've had Defenders on a couple of vehicles and loved them.
Never had the defender, I don't think... Had a cross something long ago, and a m&s that rode kinda squishy. Both michelin... Comfortable, and quiet if I recall
I remember when I swapped to the conti, didn't feel as mushy. On a 4x4
The oe michelin, I'm more the exception than the norm for milage... But I'll go hours and hours In a day not touching either pedal, just cc. I have debated putting the premier on again as well.
So exactly which tire in the brands are folks saying is the best one? I know I took the run flats off my BMW and replaced them with Michelins. very nice tire.
So exactly which tire in the brands are folks saying is the best one? I know I took the run flats off my BMW and replaced them with Michelins. very nice tire.
Many opinions here. I have the Weatherreadys and they are great on snow, ice, wet/dry pavement. They seem to really hold the road in the mountains in all kinds of weather.
Has anyone tried acoustic foam inserts for their tires?{
I never heard of these, so I did a little googleing and came up with a Car&Driver test of insulated vs the same tires minus the foam. Other than the fact that it was dated 2016, they concluded that the difference was not detectable to their ears.
It looks like Lexus has started to use noise-reducing wheels on the ES, which is very cool. You can see more about that here. They basically have a resonance chamber inside the cast wheel that reduces noise.
I have no doubt the foam makes a difference, I just don't know if it makes enough difference to mod some foam into some Cross Climate 2s, because I'm pretty set on that tire.
07-23-22 | 09:39 AM
