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Old 03-26-24, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by NA2NC
I've had Toyota techs tell me not to follow the 10K mile OCI as their experience is not anecdotal.
Yes, that too is anecdotal. There is more than just the drain intervals in play. Oil testing with Blackstone can also tell you where your oil is at when you change it. Do 5K if it gives you peace of mind, I do. But the manufacture's recommendation will be fine.
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How many miles do you have on your car? Everyone will get out of the warranty period with no problems. It will be a few oil changes after that when you start to have oil consumption problems. My engine was toast after 100,000 miles of 10K OCIs.
I find this hard to believe. What engine? What car? What year? What’s your definition of “toast”?
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I find this hard to believe. What engine? What car? What year? What’s your definition of “toast”?
Over one million miles driven in seven vehicles five Lexus's and earlier two Acura's with 10,000 mile oil changes all Mobil 1 and of course no problems. Lexus says 10,000 and Mobil says 10,000 miles. I will trust them more than any one on this forum.

Go out on YouTube and look for a guy that has a 2008 Toyota Tundra pickup truck. Original owner changes his oil every 10,000 mi and has 1.6 million miles on it

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Yes, that too is anecdotal. There is more than just the drain intervals in play. Oil testing with Blackstone can also tell you where your oil is at when you change it. Do 5K if it gives you peace of mind, I do. But the manufacture's recommendation will be fine.
When a Toyota technician shows me a torn apart block with the pistons removed and scoring due to bunged up rings as a result of 10K miles OCIs that is enough evidence for me - 2GRFE in a Lexus ES350.
If you don't keep your cars past 150K you'll never know the damage you have done and will be passing the problem off to the next guy.
Unless you only drive highway and under specific operating conditions, you won't qualify for the 10K mile OCI and people don't realize this.
If you don't understand how the low tension rings operate, and why they get gummed up, you have no business telling people they'll be fine with these extended drain intervals.
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Originally Posted by Urlik
Yes, that too is anecdotal. There is more than just the drain intervals in play. Oil testing with Blackstone can also tell you where your oil is at when you change it. Do 5K if it gives you peace of mind, I do. But the manufacture's recommendation will be fine.
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Over one million miles driven in seven vehicles five Lexus's and earlier two Acura's with 10,000 mile oil changes all Mobil 1 and of course no problems. Lexus says 10,000 and Mobil says 10,000 miles. I will trust them more than any one on this forum.
So you've put about 150K on 7 cars. You've just contributed to the problem. I bet none of them are on the road.
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Over one million miles driven in seven vehicles five Lexus's and earlier two Acura's with 10,000 mile oil changes all Mobil 1 and of course no problems. Lexus says 10,000 and Mobil says 10,000 miles. I will trust them more than any one on this forum.
So you've put about 150K on 7 cars. You've just contributed to the problem. I bet none of them are on the road.
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So you've put about 150K on 7 cars. You've just contributed to the problem. I bet none of them are on the road.
You know what they say when you assume. Your the expert mechanic. How many years experience do you have rebuilding engines?
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Originally Posted by NA2NC
When a Toyota technician shows me a torn apart block with the pistons removed and scoring due to bunged up rings as a result of 10K miles OCIs that is enough evidence for me - 2GRFE in a Lexus ES350.
If you don't keep your cars past 150K you'll never know the damage you have done and will be passing the problem off to the next guy.
Unless you only drive highway and under specific operating conditions, you won't qualify for the 10K mile OCI and people don't realize this.
If you don't understand how the low tension rings operate, and why they get gummed up, you have no business telling people they'll be fine with these extended drain intervals.
Explain the 1.6 million mile Toyota Tundra with 10,000 mile oil changes. Can't wait to read this response. Your mechanic has no incentive for you to come in for twice as many oil changes do they. $$$$$ Gullibility lives on!!!

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You know what they say when you assume. Your the expert mechanic. How many years experience do you have rebuilding engines?
No, just did some maths.
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Originally Posted by Freds430
Explain the 1 6 million mile Toyota Tundra with 10,000 mile oil changes. Can't wait to read this response.
I didn't find anything on this subject.
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Originally Posted by Freds430
Gullibility lives on!!!
Continue reading your JD Powers Fred...
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Originally Posted by NA2NC
When a Toyota technician shows me a torn apart block with the pistons removed and scoring due to bunged up rings as a result of 10K miles OCIs that is enough evidence for me - 2GRFE in a Lexus ES350.
If you don't keep your cars past 150K you'll never know the damage you have done and will be passing the problem off to the next guy.
Unless you only drive highway and under specific operating conditions, you won't qualify for the 10K mile OCI and people don't realize this.
If you don't understand how the low tension rings operate, and why they get gummed up, you have no business telling people they'll be fine with these extended drain intervals.
You're assuming 5k intervals would have prevented this.
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Originally Posted by WellsB
You're assuming 5k intervals would have prevented this.
I am not assuming anything. This was the result of extended OCIs. The low tension rings were gummed up.
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Originally Posted by NA2NC
I am not assuming anything. This was the result of extended OCIs. The low tension rings were gummed up.
Yes, you are assuming.
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Originally Posted by WellsB
Yes, you are assuming.
No, not assuming.


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