2024 Lexus RX vs. 2024 BMW X5
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I had a 2013 Avalon hybrid with the 2.5 Atkins engine. Has this old power plant gone through any evolution in the last 10 years? Still wondering why the Lexus 450h+ requires premium fuel while the RAV4 PHEV engine runs on regular 87 octane.
The Lexus 450H+ does have 2 more horse power. Maybe, the Lexus RX450h+ has been tweaked. Probably more for marketing purposes as it is a hard sell to get the same engine powering everything from Highlanders to Camerys in a vehicle that costs so much more.
The Lexus 450H+ does have 2 more horse power. Maybe, the Lexus RX450h+ has been tweaked. Probably more for marketing purposes as it is a hard sell to get the same engine powering everything from Highlanders to Camerys in a vehicle that costs so much more.
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Helps psychologically that Lexus engine is different. The Lexus is also made in Japan.
Again a psychological difference that might help with the lack of the $7500 rebate that you get for US assembled vehicles. I guess it’s time for a test drive.
Again a psychological difference that might help with the lack of the $7500 rebate that you get for US assembled vehicles. I guess it’s time for a test drive.
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And Toyota has a similar $6500 lease rebate for the Prime, as Lexus does $7500 for NX450H+ and RX450H+ - all having the same core drive-train and manufacturing location. None US made.
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Depends on how much time and effort you put into ensuring that your dealer can't screw you over in various ways (yes, they will try, blatant lies included) to prevent you from doing the immediate buyout (they sure did to me) - but reports in this forum (including threads in the NX forum for 450H+) have reported losing between $1500 to $3000 (out of the $7500) with the lease buyout option. This is also state dependent, as some states require buyout only to happen with a dealer, while others like California allow direct payout to Lexus Financial. You can research on this forum as well as on Leasehackr
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Reading through the new Consumer Reports Road Test of the RX 450H+ I see that the it uses premium fuel while the RAV4 PHEV uses regular fuel. Is there any differences between these 2.5 liter Atkinson's engines that you know of?
Consumer Reports only dings the RX 450h+ for having a noisy engine while all the other hybrids and PHEVs with the same engine don’t get dinged for a noisy engine. Wonder why?
Consumer Reports only dings the RX 450h+ for having a noisy engine while all the other hybrids and PHEVs with the same engine don’t get dinged for a noisy engine. Wonder why?
I really don't get the noisy engine complaint. We rarely notice the ICE, and even at full-song, it's quieter than the v6 that was in our 2013 RX350.
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I'm thinking the premium is due to engine control management tweaks for more power and torque. I don't believe there are any physical differences.
I really don't get the noisy engine complaint. We rarely notice the ICE, and even at full-song, it's quieter than the v6 that was in our 2013 RX350.
I really don't get the noisy engine complaint. We rarely notice the ICE, and even at full-song, it's quieter than the v6 that was in our 2013 RX350.
test drives can be deceiving. Hearing from actual owners on this forum are a major part of the decision making process. I had a RX300 which was a good vehicle. Not so much my 2013 Avalon which had a bumpy ride. My current 2021 Ridgeline is a good long distance vehicle. CR said it rides better than a lot of luxury SUVs. The 450H+ would seem to be more practical. Especially, around town.
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I'm thinking the premium is due to engine control management tweaks for more power and torque. I don't believe there are any physical differences.
I really don't get the noisy engine complaint. We rarely notice the ICE, and even at full-song, it's quieter than the v6 that was in our 2013 RX350.
I really don't get the noisy engine complaint. We rarely notice the ICE, and even at full-song, it's quieter than the v6 that was in our 2013 RX350.
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. Hearing from actual owners on this forum are a major part of the decision making process. I had a RX300 which was a good vehicle. Not so much my 2013 Avalon which had a bumpy ride. My current 2021 Ridgeline is a good long distance vehicle. CR said it rides better than a lot of luxury SUVs. The 450H+ would seem to be more practical. Especially, around town.
If you really want to experience it, you can try to get it for a day or weekend on Turo rental. That's the best way to evaluate, though I didn't have to time for that myself.
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Yes usually CR hates the bigger and lower profile tires on just about every car they test which has the option. First time I’ve heard them say that the ride was good in spite of the 21 inch wheels and tires. Good idea renting one for evaluation prior to purchase.
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