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Old 06-24-24, 06:52 PM
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Default Differences between 2024 and 2025 headlights?

How does the headlight system in the 2025 differ from the headlights in the 2024?

I’m referring to the top end lights (LED).

Ultimately, my objective is to get the adaptive high-beam system on my new RX, like the ones available in Canada/Europe.
Nobody seems to know ANYTHING about when thes3 will be available in the US.

Here’s a page from the owner’s manual for a 2025 NX

Old 06-24-24, 09:42 PM
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The use of Matrix/true adaptive headlight technology has been in use in Europe and other places for years, but is not permitted in the US. There is a lot of confusing language out there - but this is clear: the federal government has been studying whether to allow it in the US for years. Last time I looked into it, a couple months ago - the approval was still stuck with no ETA. The reason no one knows anything is because there is nothing to know. It's caught up in red tape.
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Following, but not convinced that the adaptive headlamps would be easy to fit. (requires more than just the lights...)

Meanwhile, you can achieve MUCH better lighting by adjusting the U <--> D setting 2 full turns higher. We did that months ago with good results, and have NEVER been 'flashed' by oncoming drivers. Try it.
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Originally Posted by ColoradoDavid
The use of Matrix/true adaptive headlight technology has been in use in Europe and other places for years, but is not permitted in the US. There is a lot of confusing language out there - but this is clear: the federal government has been studying whether to allow it in the US for years. Last time I looked into it, a couple months ago - the approval was still stuck with no ETA. The reason no one knows anything is because there is nothing to know. It's caught up in red tape.
It's really no surprise. The wheels of progress in many corporations turn slowly but, with the US government, it's ridiculously slow. It's like...three speeds, extremely slow, dead stop and reverse. Look at how long we were stuck with those borderline useless, sealed beam headlights in the US before something better was finally permitted.
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@Carbuff2 Interesting tip on the U D setting. Do you have the triple beam headlights or the other ones that come with RX's?

As for adaptive headlights, if the hardware is in place, it is a simple programming adjustment. You need all the other hardware in place as it uses cameras, etc. Several European makers are (supposedly!) shipping cars to the US in the hope that they can "turn on" the full adaptive/matrix headlights if/when the US approves them. The tech is basically turning off different individual led's in the headlight based on ongoing traffic or if there is a car in front of you. If you google it there are some great videos of drivers in Europe demonstrating them. As I have followed it, the US has been slow to approve as there is concern they still can blind ongoing drivers. For this reason the US may get a different spec than what is approved for use elsewhere in the world.

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Do you have the triple beam headlights or the other ones that come with RX's?
We have the high-end triple beams on our 'loaded' 500h.
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I have done a LOT of homework on this subject. I’m a retired engineer, and very driven. I’ve followed postings on this for years, and seen videos of the systems in action! You’d have to be blind not to see the difference!

A few days ago, I was communicating with a Lexus dealer in Canada. It turns out that all the Lexus cars in Canada with the 3 LED lights have the Adaptive High-beam System! We’re talking about 2024 models going out the door NOW!

I’d be curious about the part numbers for the 3 LED light components for the U.S. and Canadian models, for the current model year. Wouldn’t it be interesting if it turned out that the hardware IS THE SAME? Same part number! And that the only difference is the firmware in the computer??

Think about it…wouldn’t it make economic sense to have a single version for all markets, with market specific software. If that is the case, then Lexus should tell us so, and offer free software updates when the government approval does happen.

I’d love to replace my current GS with a 2025 RX, but I would really like, to get the adaptive beam system. I buy and hold my Lexus vehicles - they just “take a licking and keep on ticking”, so I’d be less than happy if the new system came out just after I took delivery.😡
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Originally Posted by hziemba
Wouldn’t it be interesting if it turned out that the hardware IS THE SAME? Same part number! And that the only difference is the firmware in the computer??

Think about it…wouldn’t it make economic sense to have a single version for all markets, with market specific software. If that is the case, then Lexus should tell us so, and offer free software updates when the government approval does happen.
That wouldn’t be so far fetched. I’ve heard my Audi has the hardware for the Matrix LED Headlights, but does not have the option activated bc of US regulations. Same thing for many manufacturers like BMW, Mercedes, etc.
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Originally Posted by GHN1013
That wouldn’t be so far fetched. I’ve heard my Audi has the hardware for the Matrix LED Headlights, but does not have the option activated bc of US regulations. Same thing for many manufacturers like BMW, Mercedes, etc.
That’s something I’ve heard before, but I never saw that from an automaker.
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Originally Posted by hziemba
That’s something I’ve heard before, but I never saw that from an automaker.
Volvo/Polestar do it. People flash the software with aftermarket tools to activate the matrix function in US-spec vehicles.
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https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases...safety-drivers

February 15, 2022….”The U.S. Department of Transportation’s National Highway Traffic Safety Administration issued a final rule today allowing automakers to install adaptive driving beam headlights on new vehicles. This satisfies a requirement in the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law more than a year and a half ahead of schedule.”

I have a 2021 Ford F-150 502A trim that only had auto headlights but discovered my truck had the necessary hardware to achieve adaptive driving beam headlights that Ford calls “glare free”. Glare Free headlights were enabled on Canadian trucks, but not on US vehicles.

I used FORSCAN to overwrite several modules to activate glare free headlights and once you experience glare free headlights in action you’ll definitely be impressed!!
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