I totally agree with you 100%.

PPL got mad at me for making that statement about the SC being the next 240. Sad but true because it IS the next damn 240. I got the SC for the same exact reasons you did. It was my favorite car in high school and college. Now that I have one and built it, we have newbies who start threads with "New to forums, want to swap motor" without appreciating the beauty of our cars.

I then talk about wanting to sell my car now because of the recent jump in popularity and i get random PMs from these young newbies stating "who the fudge are you to say the drift scene ruined the car blah blah. I can get the car and swap if i feel like it." obviously our statements have pushed a few buttons with the truth.

 

I hope we all keep our cars through this FF3 fiasco.
Just because our cars will become popular doesn't mean we can't still love our cars.

 

They pm you saying those things because they know it is true but will never admit it.

Just face it.

Young kids watch D1 drift, see Ueno pull that rear end out like that and start to ask questions. Next thing you know he gets an SC and starts a newb thread asking where to get a 1jz.

^ let's call that the Ueno-factor from now on.

Anyway, I just hope we can all tastefully modify our SC, regardless of the Ueno-factor.

 

Kudo's to those here who have patience and humility that can separate the wheat from the weeds and respond thoughtfully to questions and opinions and stay out of what will only incite others.

I very much appreciate the mods coming in when needed. There are plenty of other vulgar forums. This has to be one of the most tastefully moderated forums on the web. This thread itself was to encourage camaraderie (if you don't know what that means...look it up, the internet is your friend: http://www2.merriam-webster.com/cgi-...va=camaraderie) and it still gets heated

Hey more power to whoever seeks to modify their cars. And if they want opinions they should be ready to get 'em!! Before I joined this site I was pretty excited to mod my car... but ya know say in another 5 - 10 years, if I keep mine stock it will be one of the few and will be more desirable.

Guys keep in mind there were only a little more 100,000 SC's produced. Take that limited number and factor in that many have been totalled/parted out or modded, there will be fewer & fewer good one's that are available.

The good thing is these cars were built to enjoy for many, many years, so take it down a notch & enjoy the ride!

Peace.
-Cip

 

He hardly had any distasteful humor in your thread. The only joke he made was one that you didn't get about the spare tire.
To which you responded:

It's not that I don't like modified SCs. As you mentioned, I plan to work on mine. However, I don't like it when people modify their car to the point where it's not even keeping the car's original theme. Unlike alot of the board members, who I'll flat out say are the ones degrading the image of the SC, I have conservative tastes. Body kits, IMO poorly fitting, over sized wheels with stretched tires, Lambo doors, crazy paint jobs, stickers, and other modifications along the same lines aren't my style. If I do any cosmetic upgrades to my car, they'll be the subtle factory pieces from the newer models- the way Lexus intended it to be. I prefer upgrades that don't outwardly scream "LOOK AT ME!!!"

Here's an example: Ask the members who owns their favorite car on the board. A majority of them will propbably say that they love StreetKing's '97. It doesn't run super low offsets with stretched tires, sport a body kit that completely changes the car's lines, or have a loud paint job. No, it's actually more subtle and that's what I'm about. Sure, he's got an extremely modified engine, but other than the wheels, you wouldn't think anything more of it than a stock bodied car.

 

I think theres a difference between something being "not your taste" and just plain "bad taste" or "tasteless". I see plenty of SC's that are not my taste, and thats just what it is, not my taste. Then there are others that are just out there, like they came from another planet (Thank God not to the extent of Civics or 240's). They dont even look like SC's anymore. If you dont like the way an SC looks than why buy one??? It's like women, there are some that you think are beautiful and are not my type and vise versa, but some are just plain ugly. If someone posts a pic up of chick that looks like my butt, expect to hear lots of opinions about it, its human nature.

 

Whats funny is those same newbies with dreams of turboing never will. they'll talk about the GTE swap, or the 1JZ stuff. they'll buy the body kit and wheels and talk about how now they're ready for boost but they'll never do it. it's the same folks who had integras and civics and want to swap in the type r engine but they never do, and the same folsk who bought 240's and wanted the SR swap. dreams are bigger then the lifestyle sometimes and alot of people, young and old don't know when to say when.

edit- also in response to more moderator involvement, it's a double edged thing really. you get mods coming in to break up an argument between members over something that went off topic, fine and well (my comments and the other fellow's in the m3 lip spoiler thread), but then where's the line where discussion becomes arguing? is that something that should be even needed? i don't really see that in the other CL forums.

if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all doesn't always work, i think you can have an opposing opinion and be able to say it, but there's a fine area between opinion and outright flaming.

 

I strongly agree with you Ki_Soarer. I too have found some of his comments/threads to be somewhat inappropriate. Since you say he is still new to the scene I will just ignore his negative comments by not replying to them at all. We are a great forum and we should continue to keep it that way. Ive been on a couple of other forums besides this one and let me just say this, none of them can compare to ClubLexus. I really like this Club. I dont consider myself to be a ClubLexus Veteran but I do know a great deal of info about the SCs from research or personal experiences. I am more than willing to help out any member without jumping all over them yelling "search". I know there are a group of members here on ClubLexus who can vouch for me. Like it was mentioned in the begining, its best that we give the new guys a gentle push into the right direction. Anyway I give this thread a 10 . Should be a sticky. Alot of newbies and Vets could definetly benefit from this piece of info.

 

I think Koma started a great thread , only trouble is I think it should have been closed and made a sticky. I can't believe people singling out others in this thread and bashing them, that is gentleman, the sin of detraction...

 

I'm not completely sure I agree with everything thats been discussed here...

Personally, I can care less if the SC becomes the "so called" next 240...Why should I care what other people think of my car or how it might reflect on my self-image....My car drives smooth, runs strong and looks fantastic....It's been keeping me happy for 4 plus years and still going strong...Heck, it's been more reliable than any female I've been with....For that, I don't see myself selling my SC anytime in the near future....

As for the SC community, no matter how bad it might potentially get, we can always make the best out of every situation....We're here to educate, motivate and appreciate...

 

I'm with you D...SC FOR EVER CREW!

 

+1
This is gonna be my project car for a while. I mean for a real long while... partly because I'm poor and partly because I research alot before slapping something on the car.

 

can a toyota mr2 join the party?

 

Very interesting thread. Let me get myself a coke, popcorn, and buckle up & enjoy the show.

 

+1 mostly because I'm poor though