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supra vs sc300 what would you choose?
#121
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SC400 with 800rwhp Who is making that kind of power on the SC400?
I'm not disputing you...just like to know. I'm also confused on how your statement "no Supra with the same setup". There is cowboy bebop's build over on SF.
Dont get me wrong....I'm all for more displacment
gadgetSC
I'm not disputing you...just like to know. I'm also confused on how your statement "no Supra with the same setup". There is cowboy bebop's build over on SF.
Dont get me wrong....I'm all for more displacment
gadgetSC
My setup had run 9 psi from the last month, but now I'm building the internals to run from 12-15 psi with a T60-1. My goal is only around 400 rwhp so that's not much to say when comparing to an upgraded Supra TT. However, the tq from the SC400 is fun to drive throughout the powerband.
#123
They're ongoing projects but not finished. From what I know, Lextreme is building similar hp goal with 4.7 SC470. The last time I spoke to Lextreme is from 800 rwhp and up. He already laid down 378 rwhp with his LS400 before, which uses the same SC400 engine. SC400TT is also building a killer twin turbo project. ScottRunot is up to something so that's why he's selling his supercharger M90 setup. RDM20fan already put down 512 rwhp with the SC400 at least a year ago. KC dynoed 314 rwhp with only 8.5 psi with the supercharger. I can't recall them all, but I think there're a couple more boosted SC400 out there. The only disadvantage of the SC400 is its tranny. It gives up at around 350-400 rwhp, unless it's rebuilt with the hi-performance parts.
My setup had run 9 psi from the last month, but now I'm building the internals to run from 12-15 psi with a T60-1. My goal is only around 400 rwhp so that's not much to say when comparing to an upgraded Supra TT. However, the tq from the SC400 is fun to drive throughout the powerband.
My setup had run 9 psi from the last month, but now I'm building the internals to run from 12-15 psi with a T60-1. My goal is only around 400 rwhp so that's not much to say when comparing to an upgraded Supra TT. However, the tq from the SC400 is fun to drive throughout the powerband.
has a chance to put down alot of power+tq.... but enough to beat down a Stroked Supra
Durr - if you want to bring in Drag Cars, then you will have to compare Supra 2JZ powered Drag Cars.
gadgetSC
#124
Racer
I guess you never drove any boosted SC, especially the SC400. For every psi of boost, the SC400 makes 3 more rwhp than the Supra and about 5 more rwtq. Currently, there're several SC400 projects going on from 400-800rwhp, that can turn out monster tq that no Supra with the same setup can match. I don't mean to offend any Supra fans out there, but it's the fact for bigger displacement.
I've driven many boosted cars. I owned a semi modified mid 13 second mk3 supra, not a big feat but faster than any stock or BPU NA sc300/sc400 i would say. And since ive sold that I drive my brothers mk2 supra that put down 375rwhp on stock injectors and is easily a 12 second car, every day to work.
I would hope a turbo, or twin turbo SC400 would make more power than a 3.0l inline 6, and I do respect a properly boosted 1UZ, but how many people on this forum have boosted 1UZ's? We could count them on two hands.
any ways, we just got some 550's so hopefully we can max out this turbo at around 450rwhp and get some new time slips at the track.
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450-550, puh...lease.. also wonder how long will that motor last at 450-550 hp level, 8 out of 10 Supras put that much down,that's BPU,throw a decent single and a fuel and you got 650-750
#126
Racer
Motor isnt stock. And i said 450 rwhp with 550cc injectors. Not 550rwhp.
Someone has even made 700+rwhp on a stock bottom end 7mgte any ways.
And for a 7m supra, not that many are throwing down 450-550. Especially a MK2 weighing 1000 lbs less. My brother had the fastest E.T. in the 1/4 mile at the local supra meet, beating out a 600rwhp mk3 and a 400-500rwhp mk4.
Someone has even made 700+rwhp on a stock bottom end 7mgte any ways.
And for a 7m supra, not that many are throwing down 450-550. Especially a MK2 weighing 1000 lbs less. My brother had the fastest E.T. in the 1/4 mile at the local supra meet, beating out a 600rwhp mk3 and a 400-500rwhp mk4.
#127
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Joewitafro,
Sorry for misunderstanding you.
As Durr has mentioned, I've read there're several pro drag cars using the built 1UZFE (SC400 & LS400) engine and run 6 or 7 seconds for 1/4 mile. 500 rwhp with stock internals have been achieved, and I guess that's maxxed out. And please remember this engine has high compression. There's more info about this engine on www.lextreme.com because that's where this V8 engine is concentrated on. The main reason this car & engine aren't popular in the high performance market is because it's not easy to make or build parts. Therefore, it's not profitable to make and sell parts for it. Everything has to be doubled in general. Anyway, I think I'm out of tracks of what this original topic is about.
Sorry for misunderstanding you.
As Durr has mentioned, I've read there're several pro drag cars using the built 1UZFE (SC400 & LS400) engine and run 6 or 7 seconds for 1/4 mile. 500 rwhp with stock internals have been achieved, and I guess that's maxxed out. And please remember this engine has high compression. There's more info about this engine on www.lextreme.com because that's where this V8 engine is concentrated on. The main reason this car & engine aren't popular in the high performance market is because it's not easy to make or build parts. Therefore, it's not profitable to make and sell parts for it. Everything has to be doubled in general. Anyway, I think I'm out of tracks of what this original topic is about.
#128
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For the record, there are a bunch of stock displacement 2JZ's making 1100+ whp. Stroking is NOT needed to make big power.
Let's let the Lexus V8's catch up with stock bottom end 2JZ's first before we start talking about how superior they are, power wise. LOL I've been running my stock bottom end 2JZ at ~725-900 HP (625-765+ dynojet HP) since 2001 and haven't YET broken anything. Since 2003 it's been at the upper end of that range. I don't get a chance to drive it that much -- about 14K miles total during the period -- but it's ALWAYS set for full power, not just occasionally. That's not a goal -- it's history.
Let's let the Lexus V8's catch up with stock bottom end 2JZ's first before we start talking about how superior they are, power wise. LOL I've been running my stock bottom end 2JZ at ~725-900 HP (625-765+ dynojet HP) since 2001 and haven't YET broken anything. Since 2003 it's been at the upper end of that range. I don't get a chance to drive it that much -- about 14K miles total during the period -- but it's ALWAYS set for full power, not just occasionally. That's not a goal -- it's history.
#130
For the record, there are a bunch of stock displacement 2JZ's making 1100+ whp. Stroking is NOT needed to make big power.
Let's let the Lexus V8's catch up with stock bottom end 2JZ's first before we start talking about how superior they are, power wise. LOL I've been running my stock bottom end 2JZ at ~725-900 HP (625-765+ dynojet HP) since 2001 and haven't YET broken anything. Since 2003 it's been at the upper end of that range. I don't get a chance to drive it that much -- about 14K miles total during the period -- but it's ALWAYS set for full power, not just occasionally. That's not a goal -- it's history.
Let's let the Lexus V8's catch up with stock bottom end 2JZ's first before we start talking about how superior they are, power wise. LOL I've been running my stock bottom end 2JZ at ~725-900 HP (625-765+ dynojet HP) since 2001 and haven't YET broken anything. Since 2003 it's been at the upper end of that range. I don't get a chance to drive it that much -- about 14K miles total during the period -- but it's ALWAYS set for full power, not just occasionally. That's not a goal -- it's history.
I know this.....I was pointing out the Stroked setups because, the "Torque" of the V8's mentioned as being surperior the the 2JZ. With bigger displacment comes more torque. The main reason people opt for a stroked motor.
gadgetSC
#133
1992 SC300 - EPA Mileage Estimates: (City/Highway)
Manual: 18 mpg / 23 mpg Automatic: : 18 mpg / 22 mpg
2000 SC300 - EPA Mileage Estimates: (City/Highway)
Automatic: : 19 mpg / 23 mpg
Source - Edmonds.com, Also the same information in the Lexus brochures
Seems pretty close to me
Last edited by gadgetSC; 08-27-08 at 06:18 PM.
#135
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Gas saver vvt-i
1992 SC300 - EPA Mileage Estimates: (City/Highway)
Manual: 18 mpg / 23 mpg Automatic: : 18 mpg / 22 mpg
2000 SC300 - EPA Mileage Estimates: (City/Highway)
Automatic: : 19 mpg / 23 mpg
Source - Edmonds.com, Also the same information in the Lexus brochures
Seems pretty close to me
1992 SC300 - EPA Mileage Estimates: (City/Highway)
Manual: 18 mpg / 23 mpg Automatic: : 18 mpg / 22 mpg
2000 SC300 - EPA Mileage Estimates: (City/Highway)
Automatic: : 19 mpg / 23 mpg
Source - Edmonds.com, Also the same information in the Lexus brochures
Seems pretty close to me