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Old 03-11-10, 10:05 PM
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what would u guys do???
i planned on convert my transmission to 5 speed and drive this engine til it blowns and get a 2jzgte JUST THE MOTOR or rebuild it and throw a turbo in it
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buy a 1jzgte with 5 speeds and throw it in there
need u guys' opinion
thx in advance ^^
Old 03-11-10, 10:08 PM
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keep the GE, throw a turbo on it so it can blow up faster
Old 03-11-10, 10:26 PM
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y would i wanna blow my engine haha
Old 03-12-10, 12:31 AM
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1. if you do the 5 speed swap u would wanna go with a r154 an your looking at a grand there alone 2. if you go wit a w58 u most likely will blow the trans & the ge motor(power shifting, & abusing the trans). Don't waste your money i would rather go for full soarer 1jz 5 speed swap which is my goal.

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Auto 1jz swap is the cheapest you can go..then do your 5 speed swap later on..
Old 03-12-10, 01:49 AM
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i never knew about w58 would blow if i do that
thx a lot man MrAceBaBii
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Originally Posted by yetmaaxx
i never knew about w58 would blow if i do that
thx a lot man MrAceBaBii
they are rumor that the w58 can hold 400+ HP , but i wouldn't stick with it if your beat on your car.
Old 03-12-10, 11:06 AM
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What are your power goals?

2JZGTE, 1JZGTE, and even NA-T will require quite a bit of money to do it RIGHT.
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Originally Posted by MrAceBaBii
1. if you do the 5 speed swap u would wanna go with a r154 an your looking at a grand there alone 2. if you go wit a w58 u most likely will blow the trans & the ge motor(power shifting, & abusing the trans). Don't waste your money i would rather go for full soarer 1jz 5 speed swap which is my goal.

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Auto 1jz swap is the cheapest you can go..then do your 5 speed swap later on..
Agreed!! Go 1jz Auto or 5 sp!!
Old 03-12-10, 02:02 PM
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i mean i 300 is fine to me u know
i dont really race i just wanna get the bov sound and the feeling of the turbo that's all haha
i know it sounds kinda stupid
Old 03-12-10, 08:47 PM
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swap stick in and more can come later
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1jz 5 speed swap if 300 is all you're looking.. the auto is slow i find compared to the 5 speed. 2jz-gte if you are lazy and still want the power..
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Originally Posted by MrAceBaBii
they are rumor that the w58 can hold 400+ HP , but i wouldn't stick with it if your beat on your car.
FAIL

Originally Posted by vietunit
What are your power goals?

2JZGTE, 1JZGTE, and even NA-T will require quite a bit of money to do it RIGHT.
very true, this brings me to my question; do you have money? if so how much do you have? w58 fails very hard. if anything get a r154. secondly why would the engine just blow? if its taken care of it will last forever. if you are looking for an excuse to swap your engine stop beating around the bush and just swap it. all 3 options are hard. na-t is more hands on you have to actually do engine work too. 1jz from a soarer is just a matter of extending a harness. for the main part, dont forget intercooler and fuel pump for all of these engine choices. and for an na-t add, injectors head gasket machine work depending on the head gasket, id machine the head either way once its taken off the block. na-t can add up very very fast. depending on the kit you go with you also have to peice together oil lines and depending on turbo option waterlines as well.
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i dont have the money right now but im saving it
im sure i would be able to swap or mod it after several months
i dont have to pay bills or anything
so i still cant figure out what to do haha
first, i was gonna just swap the 1jzgte with 5 speed but then i dont wanna lose that .5 from 3.0 liters to 2.5. then the other idea come out which was swap the tranny then swap the 2jzgte head later on
but still cant decide haha
is w85 really that bad?
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If your wanting to make over 350whp and drive the car hard often then you don't want the W58. It's basically a crutch at that point.

I know someone who drives his W58 hard at 400whp and it hasn't broke either...just use Redline mt90 fluid and don't launch the car like it's a ****ing racecar. Driveline shock is what's gonna kill it.

Also, it would pay off to have the trans checked out at a local shop to see if it has any issues before installation.


The W58 is by no means a 'weak' transmission. It does what it's designed to do VERY well.

The 2JZGE will blow if you cheap out on tuning electronics..turn the boost up too much on too big fo a turbo. If you actually blow a 2JZGE, your retarded and it's your own fault entirely.

I sold my 150k mile 2JZGE to a supraforums member and hes making 400+whp...said the engine looked new...but he did his kit up right.

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Old 03-13-10, 03:13 PM
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i think the best for me is to swap a 1jzgte into it. since im not gonna race it that much just wanna feel the turbo and hear the BOV sound haha. THat's all i want
but still if i have a 1jzgte in my car, i wanna beat couple car on the street when they try to be cocky u know. not gonna make it a 10 sec car


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