2JZGE Na-T TT Ecu Mod
#2537
My ecu/cop swap is still running great as NA, but as I start to collect parts for the turbo kit I'm doing bits as I can along the way. I'm thinking of getting the xs power ffim and getting that working first to clean the engine bay up. For those that went that route what did you do for throttle body and tps and IAC?
I also had the intake made shorter when I changed flanges so could run the q45 throttle body upside down and have the throttle cable come over the lower runner instead of the shock tower side. the throttle linkage will want to hit the power steering union bolt for the remote reservoir thing, which is why I had to make the intake shorter to clear and used a lower profile bolt on the union. if you try and turn the throttle body upside down you will see what I mean.
you can see in this picture where the silver looking linkage would swing down close to the silver hex bolt on the power steering union.
The linkage clears the bolt by like 1/4"-1/2"
it shifts through all the gears fine, but the torque converter lockup function doesn't work. really for na-t you should look to swap to the gte auto trans or go manual transmission those are the only options for reliably holding na-t power. the stock trans is not worth the effort involved in making that function work properly.
Last edited by Ali SC3; 04-23-15 at 08:23 AM.
#2538
Did they change the flange recently or is it just mislabeled? The xspower ffim I was looking at states it is made for q45. I think that's the best value for what I want, is the stock q45 worth messing with or better to get an aftermarket tb?
#2540
which one you use is personal preference. lots of info out there just have to do some research.
I wouldn't go for the ebay special 90mm one, it might fit and is cheap but everyone says it leaks boost so its really just a waste of time/money.
the RMR is the pricey nice version of those that doesn't leak, but the tb costs more than the whole project.
the q45 is like old trusty that normally doesn't leak, but if it does it can be resealed with new nissan parts, is widely available, and was a oem part meaning it just plain works well.
the downside is its a bit bulky and ugly at times, but it also has a cold start feature that if you have no IACV, you can leave that on there and with some tweaking it helps massively with cold starts.
most with an IACV rip it off though, but my first setup with no IACV I left it on and it helped.
thats crazy how that place closed down so fast, although I don't feel bad they overcharged for literally everything they could. maybe you are lucky to be in one of those states with a fry's electronics or just have to order online and wait.
#2541
I made another adjustment to the idle air screw today. It stayed around 850 rpm but there was a lag in the throttle because of the tps. I think I need to move the tps closer to the middle an redo the procedure.
Its a very clear audible lag in the response and you can hear and feel it when driving, and it was about an 1/8 of a turn.
I'm going to try and pick up that resistor tomorrow if possible. I found a radio shack about 20 min from me that hasn't closed yet.
Its a very clear audible lag in the response and you can hear and feel it when driving, and it was about an 1/8 of a turn.
I'm going to try and pick up that resistor tomorrow if possible. I found a radio shack about 20 min from me that hasn't closed yet.
#2542
Pole Position
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I tried a 7M IACV, it did not work at idle and acted as if the IACV was completely open 2200-2500 RPM, The 7M was completely different internally, but had the 2JZ-GTE flange orientation. I'm not sure if the IACV was defective, as it was from a motor sitting around. We borrowed a JDM 2JZ-GTE IACV off our SC, for the NA-T GTE FFIM setup. It worked perfectly with the driftmotion IACV flange, GTE conversion in the Supra.
The GE IACV is completely different flange and design on the OBDI 2JZ-GE and will not fit the driftmotion flange, it also doesn't have a breather. The newer GE IACV has a breather, but the same GE bolt pattern, I couldn't test either of the GE IACV's with the driftmotion IACV weld on flange.
After using the 2JZ-GTE IACV, we purchased a 1JZ IACV and slightly drilled the bolt holes out to fit the 2JZ-GTE Flange. It did not idle correctly either, but not horrible like the 7M. We ended up purchasing another 2JZ-GTE IACV for our JDM 2JZ-GTE swapped SC and it is back on the road.
I do not have any info on the SC400 IACV.
The 1JZ/2JZ IACV's have different bore designs on the internal filter/grommet that go on the flange which possibly cause them to be slightly off.
Without the IACV it didn't just take 30-45 seconds like some have stated. It took a full 3-5 minutes of holding the throttle to reach operating temperature to idle correctly.
The GE IACV is completely different flange and design on the OBDI 2JZ-GE and will not fit the driftmotion flange, it also doesn't have a breather. The newer GE IACV has a breather, but the same GE bolt pattern, I couldn't test either of the GE IACV's with the driftmotion IACV weld on flange.
After using the 2JZ-GTE IACV, we purchased a 1JZ IACV and slightly drilled the bolt holes out to fit the 2JZ-GTE Flange. It did not idle correctly either, but not horrible like the 7M. We ended up purchasing another 2JZ-GTE IACV for our JDM 2JZ-GTE swapped SC and it is back on the road.
I do not have any info on the SC400 IACV.
The 1JZ/2JZ IACV's have different bore designs on the internal filter/grommet that go on the flange which possibly cause them to be slightly off.
Without the IACV it didn't just take 30-45 seconds like some have stated. It took a full 3-5 minutes of holding the throttle to reach operating temperature to idle correctly.
#2543
you probably got a bad 7m one. I have used them before with stock like idle for many moons. by this age most of them have seen better days and are stuck, thats why I recommended looking into a cheap and newer sc400 option that I am currently using.
2jzgte will always work thats what it was designed for, good to know the 1jz is close with some diy work.
if you crack open the throttle more without the iacv you wont have to hold it as long when starting.
2jzgte will always work thats what it was designed for, good to know the 1jz is close with some diy work.
if you crack open the throttle more without the iacv you wont have to hold it as long when starting.
#2544
Lexus Test Driver
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Ali,
I currently have my toyota map sensor on the passenger side strut tower with a vacuum line from the intake manifold port near the fire wall.
Do you think that having such a long vacuum line could skew the pressure readings? Would it be more ideal to have it connected as close as possible which would require re-wiring the wires over there (which is why I avoided it).
I currently have my toyota map sensor on the passenger side strut tower with a vacuum line from the intake manifold port near the fire wall.
Do you think that having such a long vacuum line could skew the pressure readings? Would it be more ideal to have it connected as close as possible which would require re-wiring the wires over there (which is why I avoided it).
#2545
just minimize the thickness of the line and make sure its not tee'd into too many things and it should be fine. it doesn't affect the actual reading just the rate of change so quick vacuum changes the diameter and length of the line can have a very small effect, but it seems its not enough to cause drive-ability issues most of the time.
I used to think it had to be a short line also, but then I used a map ecu which has like a 6 foot vacuum line to the map sensor which is by the ecu inside the car, and It runs just like the stock setup. I personally like to tie the stock 2jz map sensor in with the fuel pressure regulator with a short line but its not necessary, as I said I also run the map ecu with a long vac line all the way inside the car and both run the same more or less.
I used to think it had to be a short line also, but then I used a map ecu which has like a 6 foot vacuum line to the map sensor which is by the ecu inside the car, and It runs just like the stock setup. I personally like to tie the stock 2jz map sensor in with the fuel pressure regulator with a short line but its not necessary, as I said I also run the map ecu with a long vac line all the way inside the car and both run the same more or less.
#2546
Okay so some more interesting information.
I tried a 22 ohm resistor for the wastegate vsv but it didn't work so I actually have to go online to find a 25 ohm because radio shack doesn't sell 25ohm.
Also a bit of a new development I got a new code I have never gotten that actually makes sense. P0133 for slow 02 sensor response. All it says in the book for the dtcs is to replace the sensor. Not quite sure what to make of this.
I tried a 22 ohm resistor for the wastegate vsv but it didn't work so I actually have to go online to find a 25 ohm because radio shack doesn't sell 25ohm.
Also a bit of a new development I got a new code I have never gotten that actually makes sense. P0133 for slow 02 sensor response. All it says in the book for the dtcs is to replace the sensor. Not quite sure what to make of this.
#2549
Racer
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Hey not bad considering a stock supra puts out 320hp on 11.5 psi.. But now, on stock injectors and the usual intercooler/exhaust, bump it up to 14-15 psi (14.7 boost cut) and get over 400hp no problem, theoretically..
Side note, I'm on the prowl for a GTE ECU, did they double in price recently? I cant seem to find one online for less than $500..
Side note, I'm on the prowl for a GTE ECU, did they double in price recently? I cant seem to find one online for less than $500..
Last edited by Kris9884; 05-03-15 at 12:18 AM.