'downgrading our cars'
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'downgrading our cars'
First off I will say I like my sc400 a lot and will like even more when I get employed again and can buy more than suspension for it.
Lately though I have been thinking about making my car basic (in the future of course). no electrics seats, no electric steering wheel etc etc.
anyone ever do this besides someone that has it as a drift or track car?
i got my ecu rebuilt about a month ago and while i was looking it up i read we have like 20+ ecu in our cars!??? I want to eliminate some unneeded "luxuries"...
what are somethings i can take away but still wire up to have working?
orrrrr am i going to get people preaching to me that theres no point?
i liked the simplicity of my old s13 but love the look and feel of driving my sc400
Lately though I have been thinking about making my car basic (in the future of course). no electrics seats, no electric steering wheel etc etc.
anyone ever do this besides someone that has it as a drift or track car?
i got my ecu rebuilt about a month ago and while i was looking it up i read we have like 20+ ecu in our cars!??? I want to eliminate some unneeded "luxuries"...
what are somethings i can take away but still wire up to have working?
orrrrr am i going to get people preaching to me that theres no point?
i liked the simplicity of my old s13 but love the look and feel of driving my sc400
#2
I have no idea why you would even want to do this. If anything you'll be spending money getting it all done, IF it's even possible. I think about the only thing u can 'downgrade' is the seats.
But I still don't get it, wtf downgrade? It's not like u spent money to have it 'upgraded' the way it is. And you won't be saving any money by not having the telescoping steering wheel. Sorry man, I have no idea how you are even considering something like this, it doesn't make sence at all.
If you simply don't like luxuries (which also doesn't really make sence), buy a Honda.
But I still don't get it, wtf downgrade? It's not like u spent money to have it 'upgraded' the way it is. And you won't be saving any money by not having the telescoping steering wheel. Sorry man, I have no idea how you are even considering something like this, it doesn't make sence at all.
If you simply don't like luxuries (which also doesn't really make sence), buy a Honda.
#3
well if you want no electric seats you may want to swap to seats that can move manually, power steering you could pull the pump and find a belt that will fit without the pump there...but the sc is a beast of a car to try an turn without power steering unlike the 240...also i think the sc400 has way to many electronics that work off each other to try and eliminate them the car may become a big turd if you get to crazy trying to 240 it....maybe you should just strip it down some with some weight reduction seat swap, nardi steering wheel, pull the carper deadening material etc..
#5
go go gadget flame suit!!! lol, by deleting these "options" we'll call them, you aren't really gaining much. From now on before you mod your sc you need to ask yourself. "What is the risk? What is the reward?" The loss of these options aren't going to net you any significant gain to validate the work that will need to go into removing them. if you are looking for a low budget race car, you can start by removing the interior down to bare necessities, remove ac and get a smaller belt. Maybe get some underdrive pullies, get a KNN filter and open up the exhaust a little bit..... but keep in mind by doing so, you are destroying a beautiful car and will catch alot of flack for it. But in the end it is your car. I know how it feels to get the itch and you just wanna work on your car but you lack the funds to do anything significant. Just be patient and save your money. It will pay off in the end I promise you! Good luck with the car!
#6
From the sounds of it i thought he wasn't trying to 'mod' the car, but dumb it down a bit as he specifically asked for non-drift options. Which is exactly why I'm at a complete loss as to why one would want to do this..
'Unneeded luxuries'??? What the hell man!? Lol!
'Unneeded luxuries'??? What the hell man!? Lol!
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#8
If you just wait long enough, it all will stop working on its own and you'll get what you want... Seats will stop moving, steering wheel won't telescope, windows won't roll down, etc.
Just make sure to keep them in the position you want them to be in all the time and be patient
Just make sure to keep them in the position you want them to be in all the time and be patient
#10
If you just wait long enough, it all will stop working on its own and you'll get what you want... Seats will stop moving, steering wheel won't telescope, windows won't roll down, etc.
Just make sure to keep them in the position you want them to be in all the time and be patient
Just make sure to keep them in the position you want them to be in all the time and be patient
#11
These 'downgrades' are only beneficial if you want to lose some weight -- mainly in the seats.
I don't know why you would want to get rid of the auto tilt and telescopic wheel, it's still the best one in the biz. My Soarer is without it and it is a feature I miss sometimes. The steering wheel itself - I can understand why you'd want to change that.
I don't know why you would want to get rid of the auto tilt and telescopic wheel, it's still the best one in the biz. My Soarer is without it and it is a feature I miss sometimes. The steering wheel itself - I can understand why you'd want to change that.
#12
I have no idea why you would even want to do this. If anything you'll be spending money getting it all done, IF it's even possible. I think about the only thing u can 'downgrade' is the seats.
But I still don't get it, wtf downgrade? It's not like u spent money to have it 'upgraded' the way it is. And you won't be saving any money by not having the telescoping steering wheel. Sorry man, I have no idea how you are even considering something like this, it doesn't make sence at all.
If you simply don't like luxuries (which also doesn't really make sence), buy a Honda.
But I still don't get it, wtf downgrade? It's not like u spent money to have it 'upgraded' the way it is. And you won't be saving any money by not having the telescoping steering wheel. Sorry man, I have no idea how you are even considering something like this, it doesn't make sence at all.
If you simply don't like luxuries (which also doesn't really make sence), buy a Honda.
#13
i wanna see how many ecu's i can name off the top of my head
1. engine ecu
2. fuel pump ecu
3. tail light fail sensor ecu
4. airbag ecu
5. passenger seat ecu
6. driver seat ecu
7. theft deterrent ecu
8. abs ecu
do the radio and a/c controls count? lol
1. engine ecu
2. fuel pump ecu
3. tail light fail sensor ecu
4. airbag ecu
5. passenger seat ecu
6. driver seat ecu
7. theft deterrent ecu
8. abs ecu
do the radio and a/c controls count? lol
#14
The amount of ECU's on our cars is crazy! My Saturn probably has an engine ECU and that's it....
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^yea i know right! so much stuff can go wrong.
things like the fuel pump ecu are what i was talking about.(most people like me had to end up bypassing it if the car stalls out) but after reading and thinking more common sense like. the separate ecus need to be there to organize everything. no wonder our car needs like 820cca to start. thats so lame though.
still though it would be nice to only have many 2-3 computers controlling everything instead of separate things like the taillights????????? why do taillights need a computer!
things like the fuel pump ecu are what i was talking about.(most people like me had to end up bypassing it if the car stalls out) but after reading and thinking more common sense like. the separate ecus need to be there to organize everything. no wonder our car needs like 820cca to start. thats so lame though.
still though it would be nice to only have many 2-3 computers controlling everything instead of separate things like the taillights????????? why do taillights need a computer!
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