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I should of had a V8 ????

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Old 03-29-11, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SC400-PHAE
ill trade you my 93 sc400 for your sc300....
WORD. I'll be 2nd on this offer.

I love the 1UZ but I'd rather have a NA-T 2JZ.
Old 03-29-11, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Gimpster
I would love to see an honest run of a STOCK 1JZ vs an other wise stock manual 1UZ.
1UZ would still lose, just not by 3 seconds.
Old 03-29-11, 11:11 AM
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In that video the v8 is a soarer uzz32 with active suspension and way heavier than our sc400s (uzz30).
IDK why account2x says the 1uz isn't reliable. Maybe a hater.
If you want a v8, go for it, you'll end up lovin' it. =)
Old 03-29-11, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BartleDoo
It's obviously a misinforming video. They may not be fast but they are certainly not as slow as that video makes them look. That Soarer must have had a couple spark plugs pulled.
dont quote me on this but some people were saying the 4.0gt soarer was a bit heavier than the sc400 ---something about the suspension I think.

a stock sc400 should be doing low 15's if im not mistaken.

With a manual swap im quite sure it can do low 14's no problem.

Originally Posted by account2x
Yes they are. The ludicrous design elements of the original 1UZ along with the limitations in technology make the engine age poorly.
Im not trying to argue but can you elaborate a bit on the 'ludicrous design elements' thanks

Im trying not to be biased but i think the 1uz us really up there with some of the best made engines of all time.

They last forever
Old 03-29-11, 12:49 PM
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where in cali are you located? I have a '92 sc400 with 134k haha
Old 03-29-11, 12:50 PM
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Old 03-29-11, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by account2x
The regular 1UZ-FE is not reliable specifically the OBD-I versions. There is a whole multi-page thread about how unplugging the MAF sensor restores power because of an unknown issue.
You're going to have a hard time winning that argument when there a lot of 200k mile + owners of SC4s and LS4s on this site, including myself at 265k on the original motor AND transmission.
Old 03-29-11, 02:00 PM
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340K+ 1UZ on orig motor.
i can't kill this car.
Old 03-29-11, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by account2x
Yes they are. The ludicrous design elements of the original 1UZ along with the limitations in technology make the engine age poorly.
Originally Posted by 1WILLY1
Im not trying to argue but can you elaborate a bit on the 'ludicrous design elements' thanks
Im trying not to be biased but i think the 1uz us really up there with some of the best made engines of all time.
They last forever
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Originally Posted by account2x
The regular 1UZ-FE is not reliable specifically the OBD-I versions. There is a whole multi-page thread about how unplugging the MAF sensor restores power because of an unknown issue.
Originally Posted by Klaus
You're going to have a hard time winning that argument when there a lot of 200k mile + owners of SC4s and LS4s on this site, including myself at 265k on the original motor AND transmission.
Yup

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Old 03-29-11, 09:18 PM
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Compare the 1UZ to other V8's of its era... and I don't see it as a "ludicrous design". Compared to bogus motors like GM's L98, smogged out SBF's and the like... and its looking pretty good to me.

Could it have used more displacment? Yep.
Could the cams have been more aggressive? Yep.

I think I've seen you post before on this issue, and a big complaint of yours was the intake manifold. The intake manifold is designed for low end torque... pretty much end of discussion. Just like the L98/TPI motor's stock intake manifold. IF you want to pickup a ton of top end build a short runner intake and cam it right.
Old 03-29-11, 10:19 PM
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well said Gimpster! i wont lose hope on my v8, just gotta love the rumble.
Old 03-29-11, 10:29 PM
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For all who gave props to the 1uzfe, good for you.

For all who hated on the 1uzfe, open up your narrow minds.
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Originally Posted by Gimpster
Compare the 1UZ to other V8's of its era... and I don't see it as a "ludicrous design". Compared to bogus motors like GM's L98, smogged out SBF's and the like... and its looking pretty good to me.

Could it have used more displacment? Yep.
Could the cams have been more aggressive? Yep.


I think I've seen you post before on this issue, and a big complaint of yours was the intake manifold. The intake manifold is designed for low end torque... pretty much end of discussion. Just like the L98/TPI motor's stock intake manifold. IF you want to pickup a ton of top end build a short runner intake and cam it right.
Really? That is it?

Have you removed the starter on both a 92 SC400 and a 98 GS400? The difference between the two engines is night and day.

Side-facing Throttle Body
Curved Intake Runners
Dual Distributor setup
Two Igniters
Two ignition coils (for 8 cylinders)
10 Spark Plug Wires
Cold Start Injector
Karmen Vortex Mass Air Flow Sensor
Exhaust Gas Recirculation Valve
Idle Air Control Valve

The original 1UZ and even the OBD-II version ARE NOT modern engines or even close to being modern. They are an 80s design and it shows. This is not speculation or conjecture but fact.

The attitude some people in this thread possess show exactly why Lexus never released a lower displacement turbo model in America. The average uneducated person sees 2 more cylinders and more displacement and thinks "IT HAS TO BE BETTER." NEWS FLASH NO. There is more to an engine besides those two factors.

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Originally Posted by account2x
The attitude some people in this thread possess show exactly why Lexus never released a lower displacement turbo model in America. The average uneducated person sees 2 more cylinders and more displacement and thinks "IT HAS TO BE BETTER." NEWS FLASH NO. There is more to an engine besides those two factors.
Who said better? Nobody did. Just curious, but what are you driving?
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Originally Posted by account2x
Really? That is it?

Have you removed the starter on both a 92 SC400 and a 98 GS400? The difference between the two engines is night and day.

Side-facing Throttle Body
Curved Intake Runners
Dual Distributor setup
Two Igniters
Two ignition coils (for 8 cylinders)
10 Spark Plug Wires
Cold Start Injector
Karmen Vortex Mass Air Flow Sensor
Exhaust Gas Recirculation Valve
Idle Air Control Valve

The original 1UZ and even the OBD-II version ARE NOT modern engines or even close to being modern. They are an 80s design and it shows. This is not speculation or conjecture but fact.

The attitude some people in this thread possess show exactly why Lexus never released a lower displacement turbo model in America. The average uneducated person sees 2 more cylinders and more displacement and thinks "IT HAS TO BE BETTER." NEWS FLASH NO. There is more to an engine besides those two factors.
lol it seems like he has a personal grudge with the 1uz.


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