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06-24-11, 01:24 AM
#31
Lexus Test Driver
06-24-11, 09:03 AM
#33
2jz's definitely do not outlast the 1uz.
Early 1UZ's did NOT make 240hp. The myth comes from the retarded losses through the automatic transmission. Here is a FACTual dyno video of a rebuilt stock 1uz (92-94) in a MKIII Supra. 230whp and 250wtq with the only mods being a W58 swap and an exhaust. That is not 240 flywheel hp.
Also, just because the 400 weighs more than the 300 doesn't mean the engine weighs more. If you want to argue facts then you are lost my friend.
And you know for a fact that the 1uz can't hang on power? These guys made pretty good power with it.
Early 1UZ's did NOT make 240hp. The myth comes from the retarded losses through the automatic transmission. Here is a FACTual dyno video of a rebuilt stock 1uz (92-94) in a MKIII Supra. 230whp and 250wtq with the only mods being a W58 swap and an exhaust. That is not 240 flywheel hp.
Also, just because the 400 weighs more than the 300 doesn't mean the engine weighs more. If you want to argue facts then you are lost my friend.
And you know for a fact that the 1uz can't hang on power? These guys made pretty good power with it.
Bro, that drag car has "THOUSANDS" of dollar into it, there's not one stock part in that HKS vehicle, but in that case what about that 3RZ on the TC, they made pretty good power with that too on half the cylinders
I was mainly talking about our pockets, not sponsor cars.As for the weight, like I said, I got the info from vendors and specs show the 400 is heavier. If the body and components are the same, where does the weight drifference come from? Maybe the badge! jk...
This is more like batlle of the SC's! lol...
06-24-11, 09:09 AM
#34
My bad! I remeber reading something about 97 making 260, so that's not too bad and 250 is somewhat better than 240. The SC's 1uz got robbed though, the 1uz on my GS is rated at 300hp. A 98+ manual SC would be tons of fun 
too bad lexus only made the 2J manual. Maybe a 2jzgte, but then who would have bought the 400 
too bad lexus only made the 2J manual. Maybe a 2jzgte, but then who would have bought the 400
06-24-11, 10:56 AM
#35
Lexus Test Driver
I should have bought the V8 since i have no experience with turbo and $$$ to boost my 300 
but at least im happy to know the SC300 has a higher resale value on the street 
but at least im happy to know the SC300 has a higher resale value on the street
06-24-11, 11:26 AM
#36
Bro, that drag car has "THOUSANDS" of dollar into it, there's not one stock part in that HKS vehicle, but in that case what about that 3RZ on the TC, they made pretty good power with that too on half the cylinders I was mainly talking about our pockets, not sponsor cars.
I was mainly talking about our pockets, not sponsor cars.And what do you expect really? This thread is about one vs the other.
06-24-11, 11:32 AM
#37
Pole Position
but no really..
theres even people here that are "against" rhd cars solely because i paid a much lesser amount for my car than someone did here for their LHD version.. and it doenst have all the awesome options mine comes with or the power.
its like why would a forum of millionaires with ferarris and lambos care about a guy on there whom said.. yay look at me i bought a new hyundai genesis..
lol (true story)
same thing for the 400. owners think they are better because its a more expensive car and usually more refined and luxurious..
although its not solely based on the above statement.
06-24-11, 12:27 PM
#38
Well there are absolutely ZERO SC400 owners on CL who think that they are better because they have a 400. If you read all 400 vs 300 arguments carefully then you will see that 400 owners only defend their engine against snide and elitist remarks from 300 (and "250") owners. It is exactly the opposite from your statement above. JZ owners constantly want to down the UZ and for what? Then when we defend the UZ we are all of the sudden thinking we are better?
06-24-11, 01:00 PM
#39
Like I said before, 97 5spd are few and rare. I have both a 97 oem 5spd and a 93 1J 5spd. I want to get rid of one of those and was jumping on the idea of seing if anyone would maybe want to trade their 98+ for a 97 5spd. Then all the 400 owners, (althought it was intended for 98+ only) stater bagging on how 2J were crap and it's all about the 1uz. So unless your SC is vvti, this is not even for you!
06-24-11, 01:05 PM
#40
Pole Position
"although not solely based on the above statement."
and youve obviously not MET alot of sc400 owners..
if you have, maybe its cuz you own one.
its alot different when you're looked down upon cuz you DONT have a 400..
but as i said its not SOLELY..
its ok though, i dont expect everyone to have read that part.
and youve obviously not MET alot of sc400 owners..
if you have, maybe its cuz you own one.
its alot different when you're looked down upon cuz you DONT have a 400..
but as i said its not SOLELY..
its ok though, i dont expect everyone to have read that part.
06-24-11, 01:12 PM
#41
Soarer93, sorry I thought you were referring to the post that you quoted when you said "not solely. I believe you if you say there are snotty 400 owners, but that's pretty silly of somebody with a 10-20 year old car [shadowed by its Toyota brother] to be acting like that. Both engines have great potential and nobody was bagging on the 300. JDMuscle was only kidding with the SC300's are for girls comment (I'm pretty sure).
06-24-11, 01:59 PM
#42
OP asked a question, I gave my answer. simple as that.
I prefer the 1uzfe to the I6. I like the sound, the feel, and above all else I like the thought of going a different route then most of the other SC owners.
06-24-11, 03:03 PM
#43
lol very funny, and also true
lol sorry Fonzy but your statement is full of holes----the 1uz is about 390 pounds where the 2jz is closer to 500(475 I think)
And early 1uz's are rated at 250hp not 240hp.
Dollar for dollar ? Maybe but only because parts are much cheaper and readily available, that is the only reason.
[QUOTE=BartleDoo;6486783]2jz's definitely do not outlast the 1uz.
Im quite sure sc400's have a higher resale value.
Although the 1uz is aluminum, it's 50lbs heavier than the iron 2J. As for the V8 making more power, of course the V8 will make more power stock for stock, but not by much if it's a pre vvti 1uz. I like the 1uz's don't get me wrong, I have one my self. However, the pre vvti version blows in stock form. Early 1uz's are only making 240hp, while 2J's are in the 220hp. Now put a 5spd 220hp vs a 240hp auto, I'm sure they will be close in final drive power. That is why I'm only talking about the vvti 1uz here.
Dollar for dollar, the 2J will out power an early 1uz, bottom line.
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Dollar for dollar, the 2J will out power an early 1uz, bottom line.
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And early 1uz's are rated at 250hp not 240hp.
Dollar for dollar ? Maybe but only because parts are much cheaper and readily available, that is the only reason.
[QUOTE=BartleDoo;6486783]2jz's definitely do not outlast the 1uz.
Im quite sure sc400's have a higher resale value.
06-24-11, 03:44 PM
#45
I think sc400 owners think rank themselves higher than 300's. I remember trying to help some guy with his problems, something about unplugged MAF and considering it as a mod and was wondering why he was running rich/lean.
I simple told him "i dont think that is a mod, plug it back in and you should be okay". He responded, pffh sc300 boys they dont know anything. Not his exact saying but something similar it was awhile back.
It doesn't really matter to me, i enjoy my 97 sc300 now 5spd
I simple told him "i dont think that is a mod, plug it back in and you should be okay". He responded, pffh sc300 boys they dont know anything. Not his exact saying but something similar it was awhile back.
It doesn't really matter to me, i enjoy my 97 sc300 now 5spd