SC- 1st Gen (1992-2000)

SC300/400 owners ... are you still buying premium gas for your car?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-19-11 | 11:33 AM
  #1  
lexdud's Avatar
lexdud
Thread Starter
Pole Position
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 389
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Fl
Default SC300/400 owners ... are you still buying premium gas for your car?

I am ... but I saw this article on 12 things you should stop buying and one was premium gas ... unless you own a Ferrari:

http://moneyland.time.com/2011/08/19...mium-gasoline/



I request your opinion as it would be great to buy the lesser grades if it would not be detrimental to my near-pristine (56K miles) 1993 SC400 motor.
Old 08-19-11 | 11:45 AM
  #2  
MikeSC's Avatar
MikeSC
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: IL
Default

I have a 92sc400 and I tried a lower octane fuel once.The motor reacted badly....pings,no get up and go.For the 20 cents extra per gallon the premium is worth it.Nice sc ,BTW.
Old 08-19-11 | 12:00 PM
  #3  
shboni's Avatar
shboni
Pole Position
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 396
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: New York
Default

yup...
Old 08-19-11 | 12:00 PM
  #4  
lexdud's Avatar
lexdud
Thread Starter
Pole Position
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 389
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Fl
Default

Originally Posted by MikeSC
I have a 92sc400 and I tried a lower octane fuel once.The motor reacted badly....pings,no get up and go.For the 20 cents extra per gallon the premium is worth it.Nice sc ,BTW.
Good to know ... thank you.
Old 08-19-11 | 12:42 PM
  #5  
xspsi6's Avatar
xspsi6
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,776
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
From: Leesburg FL
Default

Mid grade is more than enough, No need for 93.
Old 08-19-11 | 12:48 PM
  #6  
TechGreek's Avatar
TechGreek
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 875
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: DE
Default

Enjoy the carbon deposits in your motor, and wondering why you have no power.

You'll get LESS hp on an already sub-par 200"ish" WHP N/A version of a 2JZ, and then you'll have to push the gas even further to accomplish the same acceleration you naturally accelerate at every time.

If your car calls for premium, it's because the ignition timing,etc has been optimized for it. If it doesn't, you're wasting your money throwing 93 in it.

I would love to see someone come to LA/TX in this heat and try to run 87 in an SC300 and see how fast it detonates at stock ignition timing.

Last edited by TechGreek; 08-19-11 at 12:55 PM.
Old 08-19-11 | 01:10 PM
  #7  
cmh's Avatar
cmh
Lexus Test Driver
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,393
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Miami, FL.
Default

on my 1995 sc400 i only use 93 octane, but i just bought a 97 sc400 and the guy told me he puts in 93 octane every 2 tanks otherwise he uses the cheap one. call me crazy but my 95 has way better throttle response and is way faster and thats that the 97 is supposed to have like 10 more HP. i think its the gas so im waiting till i run out all the way to put the better gas in it to see if it runs better... DONT USE CHEAP GAS...lol
Old 08-19-11 | 01:25 PM
  #8  
spdrcr771's Avatar
spdrcr771
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,631
Received 12 Likes on 9 Posts
From: Arlington TX
Default

Originally Posted by TechGreek
I would love to see someone come to LA/TX in this heat and try to run 87 in an SC300 and see how fast it detonates at stock ignition timing.

Yea I only run 93, & I tried to run mid grade back when 93 was $4.22 a gal. Didnt have good results, especially with the SRT chip leaning it out.
Old 08-19-11 | 01:59 PM
  #9  
TRDmike's Avatar
TRDmike
Pole Position
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 269
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: San Diego
Default

About gas, does anyone go to specific gas stations? For example, I only go to shell for my turbo SC, but tried putting another unknown brand and car started knocking and had problems starting until i used Lucas octane booster. Although, it was tuned with shell 93 v-power.

To add on to the topic:
would it benefit getting 93 from shell or chevron with their special additives on a stock motor or any 93 rated gas will do?
What is everyone's input on this?

Last edited by TRDmike; 08-19-11 at 02:10 PM.
Old 08-19-11 | 02:07 PM
  #10  
jadu's Avatar
jadu
live.love.laugh.lexus

Forum Moderator
iTrader: (42)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 11,581
Received 89 Likes on 71 Posts
From: CALI
Default

shell 89 for me: http://www.fuelly.com/driver/jadu/sc300
Old 08-19-11 | 02:07 PM
  #11  
INTIMAZY's Avatar
INTIMAZY
Instructor
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,208
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
From: NY
Default

On N/A cars (especially older, low compression designs) there is no discernible difference between high vs low octane. If an ECU doesn't detect enough knock to pull timing, there will be NO effect on power.

In modern high compression motors it can and DOES make a difference (I personally spent some time back in 2009 in a pre-production Corvette ZR1 that was being low octane tested) Many ECU's will pull significant timing in response to knock.

That being said, on my stock NA 2JZ I ran both. No difference that I noticed. My motor didn't blow up. Passing power was not affected. Ran nearly 220,000 miles without problems before the motor got swapped.

On my 1JZ? I'll only run premium
Old 08-19-11 | 03:00 PM
  #12  
yOitzsean's Avatar
yOitzsean
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: CA
Default

91 for me always... I've been using Chevron gas for years and I've had good luck. I also use the Techron fuel system cleaner twice a year... Techron is the **** man. But if I'm poor, I will get a few gallons of 89 ^^
Old 08-19-11 | 04:06 PM
  #13  
xspsi6's Avatar
xspsi6
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,776
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
From: Leesburg FL
Default

Anything over 89 is a waste of money as the compression and timing are aggressive enough to warrant anything more but we are talking pre vvti here.
Old 08-19-11 | 06:05 PM
  #14  
Joey-E's Avatar
Joey-E
Lead Lap
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,447
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
From: I.E Southern California to SA,Texas
Default

So this topic comes up again....i will always use premium 91+ (93 for me) as the owners manual recommends and warns otherwise.
Old 08-19-11 | 07:14 PM
  #15  
jwb9's Avatar
jwb9
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Florida
Default 93 octane

The SC400 has a high compression engine. It should be run on high octane gas.
Iv'e been using 93 octane BP gas in my 99 SC400 and my 2001 solara V6. The Solara has 200,700 miles on it and I still have to look at the tach to see if the engine is running. Feed it good and it will run good, feed it crap and it will run like crap.
I tried cheap gas for a few tank fulls, performance and milage both suffered.
There really wasn't any savings.


Quick Reply: SC300/400 owners ... are you still buying premium gas for your car?



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:05 PM.