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Old 02-26-12, 06:36 PM
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If the Supra came with a 1UZ from the factory there would be a kit on every website for it.....but it didn't.
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Old 02-26-12, 06:48 PM
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I was at the same crossroads and if you want a freakishly reliable engine then go with the 1uzfe as long as hp is not a huge concern but if you want fuel mileage and more power that a bolt on 1uzfe then 1jz as that is how it broke down for me.

I am having a hard time selling my whole take out motor and trans for 450.00 with 130k miles.
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Originally Posted by 97-SC300
The majority is all talk. There are only a handful of guys on this entire board that went the FI road with their SC400, and I applaud them. There are supercharger kits, headers, full exhaust, manual tranny swap guides for the UZ. How many people are actually doing it? VERY few. They'd rather complain that there is no readily available TT or single turbo kit for their car. It's because companies know they won't sell so why waste time developing such product? If turbo kits were available, they would cost an arm and a leg and the complaining would continue.

It makes no sense to put $10k+ into my car no matter how fast it would make it. Somehow people with the v8 are just complainers and the big ballers drive 2JZ's, except those "real" modders happen to have easy kits available. You go buy your off-the-shelf parts and then call us complainers because we can't do the same without dropping 3-4 times the cash.

There are just as many people who buy a SC300 and talk all about how fast they're going to make it and it never leaves its naturally-aspirated form. Then there are the ones that screw up the NA-T conversion, or those who start throwing money at JDM engines from a sketchy ebay merchant and end up selling their project as a pile of parts because they ran out of money. How many people start out with a real Supra TT and don't reach the magical 600+ whp mark? I'd wager 90%+ never make it past BPU. I guess they're haters too.
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Old 02-26-12, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by xspsi6
I am having a hard time selling my whole take out motor and trans for 450.00 with 130k miles.
If I find some pre-made motor mounts to put the 1UZ into a MK3 Supra (or find that the SC mounts will do the trick) I'll come buy the combo from you. You're only ~ 6.5 hours from me.
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Old 02-26-12, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MooJohn
It makes no sense to put $10k+ into my car no matter how fast it would make it. Somehow people with the v8 are just complainers and the big ballers drive 2JZ's, except those "real" modders happen to have easy kits available. You go buy your off-the-shelf parts and then call us complainers because we can't do the same without dropping 3-4 times the cash.
Why did you buy an SC400 when you knew it had no aftermarket support then? Either deal with it or do something about it, aka do a custom build. I own a GS with a UZ engine too. Would I like to have some cheap supercharger or turbo kits available for it? Sure, why not? But I knew damn well that wasn't going to be the case when I purchased the car, that's why I am not making a thread on the GS forums asking why there's no kits. If I wanted a fast GS, I would have gotten one with a 2jz.

If there's a will there's a way. If there is high demand for a product, companies usually take notice. Clearly, there isn't enough demand for the 1UZ yet.
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Old 02-26-12, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MooJohn
If I find some pre-made motor mounts to put the 1UZ into a MK3 Supra (or find that the SC mounts will do the trick) I'll come buy the combo from you. You're only ~ 6.5 hours from me.
It's still in the car as I drive it still so I am in no real rush to even sell it so I almost bet it will be here when you get around to it
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Originally Posted by MooJohn
If I find some pre-made motor mounts to put the 1UZ into a MK3 Supra (or find that the SC mounts will do the trick) I'll come buy the combo from you. You're only ~ 6.5 hours from me.
Engine mounts.
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Old 02-27-12, 08:21 AM
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Thanks LunaVyohr - bookmarked!
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Old 02-27-12, 12:48 PM
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[QUOTE=Toytech;7045877]This guy is running stock 1uz block, heads and crank with the engine putting out 870hp at the rear wheels.
He gets faster as it plays.

Who is that guy?
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Old 02-27-12, 01:28 PM
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Pretty much a fact that the stock 2jz in either trim can support 1000 hp with MHG and headstuds.

Where everyone is getting 700 is news to me.

V8's are meh IMO. Having built countless high HP v8 powered cars... they are all the same.
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Old 02-27-12, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by lookEVO
Pretty much a fact that the stock 2jz in either trim can support 1000 hp with MHG and headstuds.

Where everyone is getting 700 is news to me.

V8's are meh IMO. Having built countless high HP v8 powered cars... they are all the same.
No, they can't.

All the same? As in an easy, reliable platform to make plenty of horsepower and torque?
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Old 02-27-12, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SpecialK47
No, they can't.

All the same? As in an easy, reliable platform to make plenty of horsepower and torque?
Maybe 1000 is a little much but i know its not hard/fast 700. A simple search on SF netted me SEVERAL examples of stock block cars sub 1000. seemingly mid 800s is fairly common. low to mid 900's being a fascination as well but i KNOW ive heard of several that can hit 1k. As far as i know, from experience and from research, the weak point on nearly every Supra/SC is the tranny unless its a 6 spd... and then it becomes the clutch.

And yes, v8's generally all end up being the same. Having built countless different versions of all the big name brands. My father, grandfather and uncle have all been in racing for their whole lives... so guess what I got into. Growing up in a race car shop, then subsequently being a mechanic as well as a shop owner for several years gives me a little bit of knowledge. Im not impressed by them and thats my opinion, if you dont like it, too bad. Theres no love for an engine that comes in a car that has little to no mod-ability with out a good deal of fabrication. Sure if you like it and wanna do that you are more than welcome. No one told you not to, but dont call a jz engine a downgrade. Make 350 hp on your engine and tell me what your mpg are... make 600, make 850.

Cost me about 2k to hit the hp level Im at... free labor of course. and my only limits are trans and fuel. all things I can address if I want to. I choose to be happy at this level for the time being.

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Old 02-27-12, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by lookEVO
Pretty much a fact that the stock 2jz in either trim can support 1000 hp with MHG and headstuds.

Where everyone is getting 700 is news to me.

V8's are meh IMO. Having built countless high HP v8 powered cars... they are all the same.
That's a pretty broad generalization about V8's.

So using that logic I bet the 10 cylinder in the LFA is an even crappier motor.

I have never driven a car with a turbo 2jz or a 1jz, but i have driven a Cosworth Escort in the UK, a first generation STI, and an S4 (the twin turbo charged six cylinder one) so that's my frame of reference.

Maybe it's nostalgia for 60-70's american muscle cars, my first v8 was a dropped and heavily modified 1967 firebird 400. That car was alot of things but never meh..............

There is just something special about these 1uz SC400s. It's a stellar automobile! I love the sound of the toyota v8. Sounds even better without the various exhaust components. The engineering is exceptional.

People are always talking................ 700 hp on stock internals, 1000 hp on stock internals. What for like a month?
If you like numbers so much, how about this.................. 500,000 miles without a rebuild!!!!!

Don't get me wrong I like drag racing, drifting, etc..... but what is it that people like to do with 1000 horsepower on the street that won't end up with you dead or in jail?

It's pretty hard to get traction over 500 rwhp, I don't find it that useful in a street car.

I find it really funny that a thread about why the 1UZ should get more attention, immediately turns into a bunch of electronic ***** measuring, and bashing the underdog. I suspect most people criticizing this motor have underlying feelings of inadequacy!!!! lol..... joking!

Give the 1UZ some f'in respect..........it deserves it.
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Old 02-27-12, 11:56 PM
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Trust me I would love to turbo or supercharge my 1UZ But way to spendy But will I ever go through all the trouble to put in a 1jz or 2jz in my V8's spot so I can upgrade it, HELL NO. I LOVE the stock torque it puts out. I don't have time to upgrade my engine so I just keep the best of the best in stock form lol.
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