Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 vs. A/S
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Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 vs. A/S
Time to replace my 2003 SC430 runflats. From the postings, most speak highly of the Pilot Sport A/S. I have run a tirerack comparison of the A/S and the PS2.
The PS2 comes out .4 better in handling, .5 better in dry trackion, .1 better in wet traction, .4 better in ride comfort, .7 better in noise comfort and .2 less in wear.
Based on these results my inclination is towards the PS2. Snow is not a consideration. My V70R takes care of the snow we get in British Columbia.
I would appreciate any feedback, especially from anyone who has gone the PS2 route.
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The PS2 comes out .4 better in handling, .5 better in dry trackion, .1 better in wet traction, .4 better in ride comfort, .7 better in noise comfort and .2 less in wear.
Based on these results my inclination is towards the PS2. Snow is not a consideration. My V70R takes care of the snow we get in British Columbia.
I would appreciate any feedback, especially from anyone who has gone the PS2 route.
Thanks
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i have ps2 and my only worry would be if u have camber issues and uneven wear because i do not believe that these tires can be flipped from one side to the other. one side of the tire is marked to be on the outside and the other has to be on the inside so
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Originally Posted by CarlssonLS400
i have ps2 and my only worry would be if u have camber issues and uneven wear because i do not believe that these tires can be flipped from one side to the other. one side of the tire is marked to be on the outside and the other has to be on the inside so
My Michelins have arrows showing the rotation direction. Doesn't matter which side as long as they're rolling the right direction. I would think the same is true on the PS2's but hey, that would be interesting to know.
I flipped my Michelins from one side to the other by having the tires removed from the rim and swapping sides. That's the only way to do it with directional tires. My wear is pretty even considering the car is lowered on Tein coilovers. The inside still has more wear than the outside, so I should be able to get more milage out of the fronts, enough to make up for the labor cost to have the tires dis-mounted and re-mounted and balanced.
I have the old PS1's. My next tire will be PS2's. These tires cost a bunch, but I'm getting more milage from these Michelins, than my buddies with Kumho's and SO3's.
I have heard the PS2 tires have amazing grip.
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Originally Posted by RMMGS4
Do they really say inside and outside????
My Michelins have arrows showing the rotation direction. Doesn't matter which side as long as they're rolling the right direction. I would think the same is true on the PS2's but hey, that would be interesting to know.
I flipped my Michelins from one side to the other by having the tires removed from the rim and swapping sides. That's the only way to do it with directional tires. My wear is pretty even considering the car is lowered on Tein coilovers. The inside still has more wear than the outside, so I should be able to get more milage out of the fronts, enough to make up for the labor cost to have the tires dis-mounted and re-mounted and balanced.
I have the old PS1's. My next tire will be PS2's. These tires cost a bunch, but I'm getting more milage from these Michelins, than my buddies with Kumho's and SO3's.
I have heard the PS2 tires have amazing grip.
My Michelins have arrows showing the rotation direction. Doesn't matter which side as long as they're rolling the right direction. I would think the same is true on the PS2's but hey, that would be interesting to know.
I flipped my Michelins from one side to the other by having the tires removed from the rim and swapping sides. That's the only way to do it with directional tires. My wear is pretty even considering the car is lowered on Tein coilovers. The inside still has more wear than the outside, so I should be able to get more milage out of the fronts, enough to make up for the labor cost to have the tires dis-mounted and re-mounted and balanced.
I have the old PS1's. My next tire will be PS2's. These tires cost a bunch, but I'm getting more milage from these Michelins, than my buddies with Kumho's and SO3's.
I have heard the PS2 tires have amazing grip.
yeah my ps2 say "outside" on the sidewall. for my yokohama avs sports i would just have them taken off and flipped to the other side but i can't with these ps2's. i noticed a lot more sound from sand. this is either cuz the ps2 have so much grip they are picking up sand or/and because i got a body kit installed right before putting the ps2 on.
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Originally Posted by CarlssonLS400
yeah my ps2 say "outside" on the sidewall. for my yokohama avs sports i would just have them taken off and flipped to the other side but i can't with these ps2's. i noticed a lot more sound from sand. this is either cuz the ps2 have so much grip they are picking up sand or/and because i got a body kit installed right before putting the ps2 on.
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Originally Posted by CarlssonLS400
yeah my ps2 say "outside" on the sidewall. for my yokohama avs sports i would just have them taken off and flipped to the other side but i can't with these ps2's. i noticed a lot more sound from sand. this is either cuz the ps2 have so much grip they are picking up sand or/and because i got a body kit installed right before putting the ps2 on.
Oh OK, well ya learn something new I guess.
Yeah the sand noise does indicate sticky compound of rubber.
Atleast it's not like road race tires. They are so gummy after a race, you see small stones embedded right into the rubber !
Talk about kicking up rocks at the cars behind you!
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If the PS2s have more dry traction, then I say definitely.
I'm not disappointed with my A/Ss, but since I got the Daizen sway bars, I can break them from the pavement a little easier than I'd like.
I'm not disappointed with my A/Ss, but since I got the Daizen sway bars, I can break them from the pavement a little easier than I'd like.
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I'm happy with my A/S but have no experience with the PS2. I still have a lot of tread left in my tires as I don't drive it too much, but the PS2 is something I would consider in the future.
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Originally Posted by antigeek
If the PS2s have more dry traction, then I say definitely.
I'm not disappointed with my A/Ss, but since I got the Daizen sway bars, I can break them from the pavement a little easier than I'd like.
I'm not disappointed with my A/Ss, but since I got the Daizen sway bars, I can break them from the pavement a little easier than I'd like.
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They are extraordinarily nice to have.
It's still a 3800lb. brick, but it's a serious improvement.
The most noticeable is the front-to-back movement reduction.
I'd love to drive an unadulterated one to feel the difference again.
Now, if I could figure out what to spray on the front poly bushings to keep them from creaking in the cold! It's rather horrid.
It's still a 3800lb. brick, but it's a serious improvement.
The most noticeable is the front-to-back movement reduction.
I'd love to drive an unadulterated one to feel the difference again.
Now, if I could figure out what to spray on the front poly bushings to keep them from creaking in the cold! It's rather horrid.
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Originally Posted by RMMGS4
Do they really say inside and outside????
My Michelins have arrows showing the rotation direction. Doesn't matter which side as long as they're rolling the right direction. I would think the same is true on the PS2's but hey, that would be interesting to know.
I flipped my Michelins from one side to the other by having the tires removed from the rim and swapping sides. That's the only way to do it with directional tires. My wear is pretty even considering the car is lowered on Tein coilovers. The inside still has more wear than the outside, so I should be able to get more milage out of the fronts, enough to make up for the labor cost to have the tires dis-mounted and re-mounted and balanced.
I have the old PS1's. My next tire will be PS2's. These tires cost a bunch, but I'm getting more milage from these Michelins, than my buddies with Kumho's and SO3's.
I have heard the PS2 tires have amazing grip.
My Michelins have arrows showing the rotation direction. Doesn't matter which side as long as they're rolling the right direction. I would think the same is true on the PS2's but hey, that would be interesting to know.
I flipped my Michelins from one side to the other by having the tires removed from the rim and swapping sides. That's the only way to do it with directional tires. My wear is pretty even considering the car is lowered on Tein coilovers. The inside still has more wear than the outside, so I should be able to get more milage out of the fronts, enough to make up for the labor cost to have the tires dis-mounted and re-mounted and balanced.
I have the old PS1's. My next tire will be PS2's. These tires cost a bunch, but I'm getting more milage from these Michelins, than my buddies with Kumho's and SO3's.
I have heard the PS2 tires have amazing grip.
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I had PS'2 on my M5 and i must say they are awesome tires. Most of the M5 community have gone with the PS's since they came over the old Pilot Sports. I cannot speak to a comparison tho.
good luck
al
good luck
al
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I was thinking about going with the ps'2 on my sc430 2004 with diablo lionhart chrome rims &245x35x20 on all 4 or 255x35x20 on all 4 or staggard . But tirerack & townfair tires say that 245x35 x20 may rub in the front & that I should go with 245x30x20 on all 4 or with 255x30x20 rear. other rim companies say 255x35x20 all 4 0r 245x35x20 on all 4 or staggard also I was told that I can go with 255x35x20 front & 275x35x20 rear with out rolling fenders . I may lower at a later date with teins but i have stock now. If some one has stock sc430 with 20's please let me know what size tires they have & if any problems. Thanks AGSC430
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Originally Posted by AGSC430
I was thinking about going with the ps'2 on my sc430 2004 with diablo lionhart chrome rims &245x35x20 on all 4 or 255x35x20 on all 4 or staggard . But tirerack & townfair tires say that 245x35 x20 may rub in the front & that I should go with 245x30x20 on all 4 or with 255x30x20 rear. other rim companies say 255x35x20 all 4 0r 245x35x20 on all 4 or staggard also I was told that I can go with 255x35x20 front & 275x35x20 rear with out rolling fenders . I may lower at a later date with teins but i have stock now. If some one has stock sc430 with 20's please let me know what size tires they have & if any problems. Thanks AGSC430