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Old 09-05-09, 11:31 AM
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Yeah, I've never seen the black with red interior, or the white 2007 with red interior, either. I just know I want one.
Old 09-05-09, 11:35 AM
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damn, the 20K seems like SUCH a steal especially knowing you can get it for 18K...hmmm....

the PB 05 (black) and 07 (white) IMO are the best combos you can get though everyone I've showed the red leather too thinks it would get old real quick especially because its hyper-candy red...I think I'm in the minority and believe it looks real badass (never seen it in person) and hope that its more like the M3 red interior which is more dark and true red (if any of this makes sense)...anyway wish you the best and keep us posted for sure...
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OK GREAT! I've got a nice list of Sterling McCall Lexus (isn't that down by you too cool in H-town?) only service...looks like this person put about 15k-17k miles on the car in a year! wow may only be a one owner from texas and the new england wholesaler bought it and shipped it up there or the owners moved to NE area or something. IDK

GREAT NEWS! Battery, brakes, tires, 30k and 60k have all been done. i would definitely want to give it a fresh fluid flush n' fill, spark plugs, k&n filter, a/c filter and timing belt though if I bought her. GREAT DEAL on this car.

For me, (as we discussed before), the $5k savings on this car versus the Lexus Dealer on the same PB Edition 2005 with similar miles in OH is much worth it...maybe even more for me considering knowing the car was born and serviced in Houston.

Service History for VIN: JTHFN48Y950061835

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Service Type Service Date Service Provider Mileage Repair Order # Service Description
Dealer Reported 05/05/2009 Sterling McCall Lexus 75501 0367207 PULLED PLUGS - NOM WORK DONE
Dealer Reported 05/05/2009 Sterling McCall Lexus 75501 0367207 ADDITIONAL SERVICE REQUEST
Dealer Reported 02/13/2009 Sterling McCall Lexus 75415 0356910 75K MILE SERVICE: LUBE OIL & FILT
Dealer Reported 02/13/2009 Sterling McCall Lexus 75415 0356910 75K MILE SERVICE: LUBE OIL & FILT
Dealer Reported 02/13/2009 Sterling McCall Lexus 75415 0356910 DONE
Dealer Reported 02/13/2009 Sterling McCall Lexus 75415 0356910 4 TIRES @ 5/32 NEXT SERVICE
Dealer Reported 12/05/2008 Sterling McCall Lexus 70715 0347233 70K MILE SERVICE: LUBE OIL & FILT
Dealer Reported 12/05/2008 Sterling McCall Lexus 70715 0347233 70K MILE SERVICE: LUBE OIL & FILT
Dealer Reported 12/05/2008 Sterling McCall Lexus 70715 0347233 ADDITIONAL SERVICE REQUEST
Dealer Reported 09/10/2008 Sterling McCall Lexus 65141 0335057 65K MILE SERVICE: LUBE OIL & FILT
Dealer Reported 09/10/2008 Sterling McCall Lexus 65141 0335057 65K MILE SERVICE: LUBE OIL & FILT
Dealer Reported 09/10/2008 Sterling McCall Lexus 65141 0335057 ADDITIONAL SERVICE REQUEST
Dealer Reported 09/10/2008 Sterling McCall Lexus 65141 0335057 =STATE INSP FOR 96 & CURRENT
Dealer Reported 06/18/2008 Sterling McCall Lexus 60330 0322374 60K MILE SERVICE: LUBE OIL & FILT
Dealer Reported 06/18/2008 Sterling McCall Lexus 60330 0322374 60K MILE SERVICE: LUBE OIL & FILT
Dealer Reported 06/18/2008 Sterling McCall Lexus 60330 0322374 =AUTOMATIC TRANS FLUSH
Dealer Reported 06/18/2008 Sterling McCall Lexus 60330 0322374 DONE
Dealer Reported 06/18/2008 Sterling McCall Lexus 60330 0322374 REPLACED BATTERY & BATTERY TERMIN
Dealer Reported 06/18/2008 Sterling McCall Lexus 60330 0322374 REPLACED BATTERY & BATTERY TERMIN
Dealer Reported 04/08/2008 Sterling McCall Lexus 55701 0312225 55K MILE SERVICE: LUBE OIL & FILT
Dealer Reported 04/08/2008 Sterling McCall Lexus 55701 0312225 55K MILE SERVICE: LUBE OIL & FILT
Dealer Reported 04/08/2008 Sterling McCall Lexus 55701 0312225 DOES NOT NEED BRAKES
Dealer Reported 01/15/2008 Sterling McCall Lexus 50483 0299874 50K MILE SERVICE: LUBE OIL & FILT
Dealer Reported 01/15/2008 Sterling McCall Lexus 50483 0299874 50K MILE SERVICE: LUBE OIL & FILT
Dealer Reported 01/15/2008 Sterling McCall Lexus 50483 0299874 =FRONT BRAKE REPAIR
Dealer Reported 10/11/2007 Sterling McCall Lexus 45205 0285937 45K MILE SERVICE: LUBE OIL & FILT
Dealer Reported 10/11/2007 Sterling McCall Lexus 45205 0285937 45K MILE SERVICE: LUBE OIL & FILT
Dealer Reported 10/11/2007 Sterling McCall Lexus 45205 0285937 =AUTOMATIC TRANS FLUSH
Dealer Reported 07/05/2007 Sterling McCall Lexus 39910 0271489 =40K MILE SERVICE:LUBE OIL & FLTR
Dealer Reported 07/05/2007 Sterling McCall Lexus 39910 0271489 =40K MILE SERVICE:LUBE OIL & FLTR
Dealer Reported 03/30/2007 Sterling McCall Lexus 35446 0258692 =4 WHEEL ALIGNMENT
Dealer Reported 02/21/2007 Sterling McCall Lexus 35023 0253239 =35K MILE SERVICE:LUBE OIL & FLTR
Dealer Reported 02/21/2007 Sterling McCall Lexus 35023 0253239 =35K MILE SERVICE:LUBE OIL & FLTR
Dealer Reported 01/03/2007 Sterling McCall Lexus 33259 0246836 REPLACED ANTENNA
Dealer Reported 11/04/2006 Sterling McCall Lexus 30160 0238664 =30K MILE SERVICE: LUBE OIL & FIL
Dealer Reported 11/04/2006 Sterling McCall Lexus 30160 0238664 =30K MILE SERVICE: LUBE OIL & FIL
Dealer Reported 11/04/2006 Sterling McCall Lexus 30160 0238664 =AUTOMATIC TRANS FLUSH
Dealer Reported 08/04/2006 Sterling McCall Lexus 26078 0226611 REPLACED MIRRORS AND ECU
Dealer Reported 07/12/2006 Sterling McCall Lexus 25011 0223796 PART ON ORDER
Dealer Reported 07/12/2006 Sterling McCall Lexus 25011 0223796 =25K MILE SERVICE:LUBE OIL & FLTR
Dealer Reported 07/12/2006 Sterling McCall Lexus 25011 0223796 =25K MILE SERVICE:LUBE OIL & FLTR
Dealer Reported 03/22/2006 Sterling McCall Lexus 20925 0210036 REPAIRED GROUND
Dealer Reported 02/27/2006 Sterling McCall Lexus 20017 0207079 PARTS ON ORDER
Dealer Reported 02/27/2006 Sterling McCall Lexus 20017 0207079 =20K MILE SERVICE:LUBE OIL & FLTR
Dealer Reported 02/27/2006 Sterling McCall Lexus 20017 0207079 =20K MILE SERVICE:LUBE OIL & FLTR
Dealer Reported 10/21/2005 Sterling McCall Lexus 14677 0189263 REGISTER TIRE SENSORS
Dealer Reported 10/21/2005 Sterling McCall Lexus 14677 0189263 REPLAIRED VACUUM LINE
Dealer Reported 10/21/2005 Sterling McCall Lexus 14677 0189263 =15K MILE SERVICE: LUBE OIL & FIL
Dealer Reported 10/21/2005 Sterling McCall Lexus 14677 0189263 =15K MILE SERVICE: LUBE OIL & FIL
Dealer Reported 10/21/2005 Sterling McCall Lexus 14677 0189263 =CUSTOMER CARE OIL CHANGE
Dealer Reported 07/19/2005 Sterling McCall Lexus 11968 0179718 CHARCOAL CANISTER
Dealer Reported 07/14/2005 Sterling McCall Lexus 10099 0175340 5,000 MILE SERVICE
Dealer Reported 06/22/2005 Sterling McCall Lexus 10756 0177010 ENGINE CODE FOR LEAK IN EVAP SYST
Dealer Reported 06/22/2005 Sterling McCall Lexus 10756 0177010 ENGINE CODE FOR LEAK IN EVAP SYST
Dealer Reported 06/22/2005 Sterling McCall Lexus 10756 0177010 DONE
Dealer Reported 02/09/2005 Sterling McCall Lexus 5239 0161557 REPLACED TIRE
Dealer Reported 02/08/2005 Sterling McCall Lexus 5208 0161534 5,000 MILE SERVICE
Dealer Reported 01/10/2005 Sterling McCall Lexus 3974 0158296 SEE CONDTION """"B""""
Dealer Reported 01/10/2005 Sterling McCall Lexus 3974 0158296 RENTAL CAR AND GAS FOR CAMPAIGNS
Dealer Reported 01/10/2005 Sterling McCall Lexus 3974 0158296 RENTAL CAR AND GAS FOR CAMPAIGNS
Dealer Reported 09/28/2004 Sterling McCall Lexus 12 0147051 =INSTALL FRONT & REAR RADAR
Dealer Reported 09/25/2004 Sterling McCall Lexus 11 0146800 PRE-DELIVERY SERVICE FOR USA ALL ALTITUDES
Dealer Reported 09/25/2004 Sterling McCall Lexus 11 0146800 =NEW CAR STATE 2 YEAR
Old 09-05-09, 11:39 AM
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haha wow you just got made...
Old 09-05-09, 11:56 AM
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maybe played...

I finally talked to the 2005 PB with 80k miles that I posted the rich service history on above and they said they bought it at an auction in Houston for cars that had been in a fresh water flood. Houston floods sometimes they are right off the gulf of mexico.

So...it has a rebuilt title, but the water never entered the cabin nor the engine, it's just that it happened to go through standing water of about 2-3' feet and the insurance company totalled the car and sold at auction.

MMMMMMM?????? Anyone have experience with this?

The seller is on eBay with 100% feedback for ten years. He said he buys thousands of cars a year from houston with these issues and lexus/toyota/honda/infiniti/nissan all hold up extremely well in the floods and they are able to recondition to new with their water techniques.

He said the interior is as new as it was in 2005 and runs perfectly. Reduced to $18k.

Wow! So tempting but scary too....look at the maint history...they spent a fortune on the car before the flood!
Old 09-05-09, 01:31 PM
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i wouldn't take a chance on a water damaged car. if it was in 2-3 feet of water, water did get into the engine. as well as all of the wiring. i'd be surprised if it didn't get in the cabin too. insurance companies aren't stupid. they would not have totaled it unless major damage was done. i'm sure it was kinda sorta repaired. but these kind of cars tend to be problematic with something else going wrong every time you turn around. he probably got it for $8,000 - $10,000 tops.
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Found a 2002 red/ecru SC just like mine I sold. Asking $23,950 with 38k miles. One owner, all history, 30k service done. Perfect interior and exterior. In Missouri. I talked him down to $22k already at first bite, looking to maybe get for $21k and I pick up or $21,500 for delivery. Remember, I just sold my 02 with 29k miles for $24k. So, essentially I am getting another one just like it with 9k more miles for $2500 less perhaps? Silly of me, considering all I put into the other car, but my net/net would be about break even considering the 30k service I did on my old car, wheels/tires, nav disk, minor upgrades, etc.

So...essentially I would be re-financing my old car if I bought and financed this one! he he...lol...I shoulda kept her. Didn't blues man Willie Clayton have a song called "Cheaper to Keep her"?

All I would have to do is put wheels/tires on this...20" staggered ADR wheels and Kuhmo Ecstas at Discount Tire for $1500 total. Not bad...then my cost is up to $23k if I get this car for $21,500. Add my local tax and some detailing, etc on the car and I am about at where I was on my car, just fast forward 9k miles!

One thing about my old car that I never liked was the front bumper had been scuffed when I bought it and the Lexus dealer did a shoddy job of a respray of it and it never was perfect. I also had a couple of scrapes/scratches that were touched up that didn't look so hot and the underlying tan carpet was soiled in some areas (coffee?) that I could never get out. I'm hoping that this new one will be cleaner in that regard, and might make it a little sweeter for me. I am a perfectionist, so these little things matter to me. Of course, based on digital pics, it could always go the opposite way too?

30k service done and new tires. Not sure on brakes.

here is the service history:

Service Type Service Date Service Provider Mileage Repair Order # Service Description
Dealer Reported 08/30/2007 Dave Mungenast Lexus
36156 0190204 FRONT/REAR BODY
Dealer Reported 08/30/2007 Dave Mungenast Lexus
36156 0190204 NON WARRANTABLE OPERATION CODE
Dealer Reported 08/30/2007 Dave Mungenast Lexus
36156 0190204 35000 MILE SERVICE NON WARRANTY-NON OEM
Dealer Reported 08/30/2007 Dave Mungenast Lexus
36156 0190204 AIR CONDITIONING
Dealer Reported 08/30/2007 Dave Mungenast Lexus
36156 0190204 NON WARRANTABLE OPERATION CODE
Dealer Reported 09/22/2006 Plaza Lexus
32401 0442618 30000 MILE SERVICE NON WARRANTY
Dealer Reported 09/22/2006 Plaza Lexus
32401 0442618 NON WARRANTABLE OPERATION CODE
Dealer Reported 07/11/2005 Plaza Lexus
25476 0352138 25000 MILE SERVICE NON WARRANTY-NON OEM
Dealer Reported 09/24/2004 Plaza Lexus
19540 0296023 WHEELS & TIRES
Dealer Reported 09/18/2004 Plaza Lexus
19234 0294894 WHEELS & TIRES
Dealer Reported 09/09/2004 Plaza Lexus
18771 0293276 WHEELS & TIRES
Dealer Reported 09/09/2004 Plaza Lexus
18771 0293276 NON WARRANTABLE OPERATION CODE
Dealer Reported 04/08/2004 Plaza Lexus
16655 0262931 15000 MILE SERVICE NON WARRANTY
Dealer Reported 04/08/2004 Plaza Lexus
16655 0262931 AC DUST FILTER
Dealer Reported 04/08/2004 Plaza Lexus
16655 0262931 WHEEL ALIGNMENT
Dealer Reported 03/22/2004 Plaza Lexus
16404 0259615 ENGINE OIL
Dealer Reported 05/31/2002 Plaza Lexus
760 0078164 INSTALL SOP CHROME WHEELS PER RAY
Dealer Reported 05/31/2002 Plaza Lexus
760 0078164 CHANGE OIL & FILTER ASSEMBLY CHEC
Dealer Reported 05/31/2002 Plaza Lexus
760 0078164 CHANGE OIL & FILTER ASSEMBLY CHEC
Dealer Reported 05/16/2002 Dave Mungenast Lexus
5 0094622 PRE DELIVERY SERVICE
Dealer Reported 05/16/2002 Dave Mungenast Lexus
5 0094622 NEW CAR DETAIL
Dealer Reported 05/16/2002 Dave Mungenast Lexus
5 0094622 REPLACE/REPROGRAM KEY
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so now it's a wait and see game and think about the PB 2005 with 77k miles for $25k or this red/ecru 2002 with 38k miles for $21-$22k. Your votes/opinions matter to me!
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I'd say get the PB 2005...I just love the combo and black exterior > red IMO...plus you may not need to change the wheels out as the PB has diff wheels...thats my vote
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whatever you decide, i'd make the sale conditional on an inspection. fly there and see it in person before you buy it and drive it home. you don't want to get it only to discover little imperfections you didn't know about.
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