Electrical Problems?
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Electrical Problems?
Hello everyone! New to forum. We have a 2003 Lexus SC430 with very low mileage and love it!! We're in the middle of a move out of state and left the car sitting for about 6 weeks. Battery was dead when we tried to start it. After a jump, many things are not working...door locks, gas tank opener, trunk release, etc. Going to the Lexus dealer in a few days but wondered if anyone else has had this happen and if there is an easy fix? Thanks!!!
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Welcome to the forum lindaz.
Make sure that your battery is charged before jumping to conclusions. Your problem is an unusual one. There are some features that once their programming is lost, need to be recalibrated, like the automatic seat positioning, but I wouldn't expect it to affect the items that you mentioned, unless there is a blown fuse.
Make sure that your battery is charged before jumping to conclusions. Your problem is an unusual one. There are some features that once their programming is lost, need to be recalibrated, like the automatic seat positioning, but I wouldn't expect it to affect the items that you mentioned, unless there is a blown fuse.
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Based on the description, your battery is on its way out.
However since we do not know the background of your car, the alternator charging must be checked, too.
Welcome to CL.
However since we do not know the background of your car, the alternator charging must be checked, too.
Welcome to CL.
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my guess is that the battery is culprit. Make sure the battery is put on a trickle charger overnight. Sometimes if the battery is old or has been discharged too much for an extended period of time, it may not be able to take a charge. In this case, you will need a new battery.
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A friend with a 2003 SC430 had issues very similar to this over the last two days. We towed his car to a dealer, thinking it was the alternator and in his case that did turn out to be the culprit. His battery is only a year old, so we didn't think that was the issue before taking it in.
There was some mention of the water pump as well but I haven't seen the estimate yet, which left me scratching my head. My understanding was that the power steering pump was the only other thing that could (rarely) affect 1/3UZ-FE alternators.
Funny thing, this was Carson and the quote on the alternator part was $550 but on their internet sales department lists the same 150-amp alternator for roughly $390.
There was some mention of the water pump as well but I haven't seen the estimate yet, which left me scratching my head. My understanding was that the power steering pump was the only other thing that could (rarely) affect 1/3UZ-FE alternators.
Funny thing, this was Carson and the quote on the alternator part was $550 but on their internet sales department lists the same 150-amp alternator for roughly $390.
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Thanks to everyone for your help. We will start with a new battery and move on if that doesn't solve the problem. Really appreciate you all taking the time to respond!!
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It's weird that some things are working and not others. It's not like the gas tank opener (for example) is a big electrical draw. So if everything else is getting 12v and you have enough amps to start the car, why are these small items not working? My guess is that you blew fuses during the jump process.
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Agree on potential blown fuse/s on jump process, could be a root cause.
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Your problem is electrical disconnection due to flooded. The OP might have same problem, might not.
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It's weird that some things are working and not others. It's not like the gas tank opener (for example) is a big electrical draw. So if everything else is getting 12v and you have enough amps to start the car, why are these small items not working? My guess is that you blew fuses during the jump process.
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I have 2003 sc430: viper smart start was installed by a certified installer - they had to keep on jumping the car battery while they were installing and had to charge it overnight to finish it. I had them retrace all their work 2-3 times, they said no fuse blown and no wrong with install. I had the Lexus dealer diagnose it 3 x ($199 each) and they don't literally have any idea wats wrong
(I have to come up with ideas JEEEEEZ!!!) SEE BELOW
after install these were the problems INDIVIDUAL COMPONENTS
1.aircon blows warm..there's an "E" message at zircon controls area. ------------------------------------------------ AMBIENT TEMP SWITCH part $16.31 labor $179
2. pwr ect snow and the vsc button don't work - if u press snow it will push up back to off position. ---------- SWITCH parts $156.41 & $186.35. labor 1/2 hr to 1 hour(@$199/hr)
3.both memory seat buttons won't work. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- memo buttons $188 each $99 each
4.engine temperature needle won't work- stays on zero degrees. ---------------------------------------------------- engine temp. sensor $106 ???
5.there is this small square amber light very near to gas indicator gauge. ------------------------------------------ my mechanic says its the security for key fob
dealer says down gas tank $597
6.PRND lights at the instrument cluster(up) is not lighting up. ---------------------------------------------------------- bulb $6.80 $79.60
7.cruise control not working --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GOOD LUCK
8.rear view mirror dimmer button/light not working. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- WHOLE MIRROR. $1,700(to be re verified of what I heard from dealer coz I was already in shock at this time)
whole inst cluster $1,200(to be verified)
TODAY 7/5/23 I WILL HAVE MY CERTIFIED MECHANIC FRIEND DIAGNOSE IT AND CHECK ALL FUSES AGAIN
TOMORROW DEALER WILL DX IT again WITH THE IDEA OF POWER SURGE FRYING ELECTRONICS. I ASKED THEM IF I DONT HAVE TO PAY SINCE I ALREADY PAID $597 FOR DIAGNOSING IT-- good luck
ANYONE> IDEAS? H E L P
Disclaimers: ITS MY OWN OPINION AND MADE UP NUMBERS
(I have to come up with ideas JEEEEEZ!!!) SEE BELOW
after install these were the problems INDIVIDUAL COMPONENTS
1.aircon blows warm..there's an "E" message at zircon controls area. ------------------------------------------------ AMBIENT TEMP SWITCH part $16.31 labor $179
2. pwr ect snow and the vsc button don't work - if u press snow it will push up back to off position. ---------- SWITCH parts $156.41 & $186.35. labor 1/2 hr to 1 hour(@$199/hr)
3.both memory seat buttons won't work. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- memo buttons $188 each $99 each
4.engine temperature needle won't work- stays on zero degrees. ---------------------------------------------------- engine temp. sensor $106 ???
5.there is this small square amber light very near to gas indicator gauge. ------------------------------------------ my mechanic says its the security for key fob
dealer says down gas tank $597
6.PRND lights at the instrument cluster(up) is not lighting up. ---------------------------------------------------------- bulb $6.80 $79.60
7.cruise control not working --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GOOD LUCK
8.rear view mirror dimmer button/light not working. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- WHOLE MIRROR. $1,700(to be re verified of what I heard from dealer coz I was already in shock at this time)
whole inst cluster $1,200(to be verified)
TODAY 7/5/23 I WILL HAVE MY CERTIFIED MECHANIC FRIEND DIAGNOSE IT AND CHECK ALL FUSES AGAIN
TOMORROW DEALER WILL DX IT again WITH THE IDEA OF POWER SURGE FRYING ELECTRONICS. I ASKED THEM IF I DONT HAVE TO PAY SINCE I ALREADY PAID $597 FOR DIAGNOSING IT-- good luck
ANYONE> IDEAS? H E L P
Disclaimers: ITS MY OWN OPINION AND MADE UP NUMBERS
Last edited by LEXLOOTER5; 07-05-23 at 04:21 PM.
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Since "viper smart start" started all this, aren't they responsible for fixing it? My guess is their work caused an inadvertent failure of one of your electronic control modules. Do you have the electrical schematics for your vehicle that would help pinpoint which one? Once identified, you can get a used replacement module to swap and see if it solves your problem.
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This is just a guess and I need other's to chime in.
In a computer network if you have something with a conflicting IP it will drowned out the other item with the same IP. Could they have connected the Viper system to a cann line and it is blocking signals from certain electronics? Could it be throwing garbage on the line?
I would pull the fuses for the Viper system and see if it gets better
In a computer network if you have something with a conflicting IP it will drowned out the other item with the same IP. Could they have connected the Viper system to a cann line and it is blocking signals from certain electronics? Could it be throwing garbage on the line?
I would pull the fuses for the Viper system and see if it gets better