IS to SC
05-02-12, 10:52 PM
#1
IS to SC
Hello all in the SC430 section!!! I have been lurking for a couple of weeks now, reading all the stickies up top, and thread surfing trying to get all the info I can on what is most likely going to be my next car!! So far I have just about all the info I need about what to look far as far as problems go. One thing I haven't really seen, after a couple of searches, is any feedback or comparing the SC to IS. I know they are pretty different cars, and from my test drives I can tell they are VERY different power wise. I just wanted to see if anyone has any feedback who owns both an IS and SC, or has had an IS and transitioned to the SC and the differences or things that really stood out to them between the two. Any feedback would be appreciated, hopefully if all goes well I'll be trading in my 2008 IS250 and hop into a CPO 2002 Twilight Amethyst Pearl/Ecru SC430 in a week!! Thanks in advance!
05-02-12, 11:15 PM
#2
Moderator
I don't believe there's any such animal as a "2002 CPO". Simply put, it's too "old" to meet Lexus' requirements for the "coveted" CPO label. Anything more than six years old, or having more than 70,000 miles " is rejected.". With that said, there are aftermarket vendors who still sell extended warranties for these cars.
Beyond that, I can only offer this thought... Other than the extremely limited trunk space, you won't be disappointed. While I have not "owned" an IS, I have driven them. The SC is superior in many ways. However, if you are thinking of moving from a 08 to a 02, you will be disappointed with the very limited audio electronics in the 02 model.
Beyond that, I can only offer this thought... Other than the extremely limited trunk space, you won't be disappointed. While I have not "owned" an IS, I have driven them. The SC is superior in many ways. However, if you are thinking of moving from a 08 to a 02, you will be disappointed with the very limited audio electronics in the 02 model.
Last edited by VVTiBob; 05-02-12 at 11:18 PM.
05-02-12, 11:49 PM
#3
I don't believe there's any such animal as a "2002 CPO". Simply put, it's too "old" to meet Lexus' requirements for the "coveted" CPO label. Anything more than six years old, or having more than 70,000 miles " is rejected.". With that said, there are aftermarket vendors who still sell extended warranties for these cars.
Beyond that, I can only offer this thought... Other than the extremely limited trunk space, you won't be disappointed. While I have not "owned" an IS, I have driven them. The SC is superior in many ways. However, if you are thinking of moving from a 08 to a 02, you will be disappointed with the very limited audio electronics in the 02 model.
Beyond that, I can only offer this thought... Other than the extremely limited trunk space, you won't be disappointed. While I have not "owned" an IS, I have driven them. The SC is superior in many ways. However, if you are thinking of moving from a 08 to a 02, you will be disappointed with the very limited audio electronics in the 02 model.
I am aware of the electronics downgrade, however I have many plans for the sound system, so I'm not to worried. I'm just very happy to be able to stick with Lexus, can't beat the quality and reliability. Thanks for your response, made me recheck the paperwork and find that fancy wording!
05-03-12, 06:40 AM
#5
Here's a quick initial comparison. We own a SC430 and IS350.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sc-...omparison.html
I'm finding that the SC430 is more comfortable on longer drives, but that's just my opinion.
ds
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sc-...omparison.html
I'm finding that the SC430 is more comfortable on longer drives, but that's just my opinion.
ds
05-03-12, 07:27 AM
#6
Moderator
He's right especially since the 2006 was a mid-cycle refresh to the SC. However, if you have plans for your own audio electronics upgrades it may not be important. But you would be giving up other improvements.
CPO cars come with bumper-to-bumper warranties for 3 years or to 100K. What do you get with "certified Lexus resale"? Or are they just intended to confuse the buyer into a sense of security? If it's the latter, I'd use their "deceptive language" to negotiate a lower price for an aftermarket extended warranty if you have concerns. While my 02 purchase was a PP sale, I had the car inspected prior to purchase at a dealer and then negotiated a price for a 4 year extended warranty, which already paid for itself in two years.
CPO cars come with bumper-to-bumper warranties for 3 years or to 100K. What do you get with "certified Lexus resale"? Or are they just intended to confuse the buyer into a sense of security? If it's the latter, I'd use their "deceptive language" to negotiate a lower price for an aftermarket extended warranty if you have concerns. While my 02 purchase was a PP sale, I had the car inspected prior to purchase at a dealer and then negotiated a price for a 4 year extended warranty, which already paid for itself in two years.
Last edited by VVTiBob; 05-03-12 at 07:36 AM.
05-04-12, 02:38 PM
#7
Here's a quick initial comparison. We own a SC430 and IS350.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sc-...omparison.html
I'm finding that the SC430 is more comfortable on longer drives, but that's just my opinion.
ds
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sc-...omparison.html
I'm finding that the SC430 is more comfortable on longer drives, but that's just my opinion.
ds
Not quite, my needs have changed so two doors is more practical right now which is why I'm trading in the newer car, I'm getting money back from the dealership for the 2008 IS either towards warranty or straight cash.
He's right especially since the 2006 was a mid-cycle refresh to the SC. However, if you have plans for your own audio electronics upgrades it may not be important. But you would be giving up other improvements.
CPO cars come with bumper-to-bumper warranties for 3 years or to 100K. What do you get with "certified Lexus resale"? Or are they just intended to confuse the buyer into a sense of security? If it's the latter, I'd use their "deceptive language" to negotiate a lower price for an aftermarket extended warranty if you have concerns. While my 02 purchase was a PP sale, I had the car inspected prior to purchase at a dealer and then negotiated a price for a 4 year extended warranty, which already paid for itself in two years.
CPO cars come with bumper-to-bumper warranties for 3 years or to 100K. What do you get with "certified Lexus resale"? Or are they just intended to confuse the buyer into a sense of security? If it's the latter, I'd use their "deceptive language" to negotiate a lower price for an aftermarket extended warranty if you have concerns. While my 02 purchase was a PP sale, I had the car inspected prior to purchase at a dealer and then negotiated a price for a 4 year extended warranty, which already paid for itself in two years.
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05-05-12, 05:09 AM
#9
Nice choice. Have an 03 tap myself. 180K miles. You might miss the extra space for people, groceries, hauling stuff etc. ANd if you don't plan on going top down the majority of the time id say it may not be perfect...but...a really wonderful car w top down and NO RUN FLATS.
I'd also warn that the early sc430 seats dont recline quite far enough which makes long roadies a little tough on my back. But the interior is so luxurious. Oh...and the soft leather does make me kinda sweaty too on longer drives...but almost all leather seems to do that in my case.
All in all for me it makes a perfect 2nd car.
I'd also warn that the early sc430 seats dont recline quite far enough which makes long roadies a little tough on my back. But the interior is so luxurious. Oh...and the soft leather does make me kinda sweaty too on longer drives...but almost all leather seems to do that in my case.
All in all for me it makes a perfect 2nd car.
05-06-12, 12:32 AM
#10
Nice choice. Have an 03 tap myself. 180K miles. You might miss the extra space for people, groceries, hauling stuff etc. ANd if you don't plan on going top down the majority of the time id say it may not be perfect...but...a really wonderful car w top down and NO RUN FLATS.
I'd also warn that the early sc430 seats dont recline quite far enough which makes long roadies a little tough on my back. But the interior is so luxurious. Oh...and the soft leather does make me kinda sweaty too on longer drives...but almost all leather seems to do that in my case.
All in all for me it makes a perfect 2nd car.
I'd also warn that the early sc430 seats dont recline quite far enough which makes long roadies a little tough on my back. But the interior is so luxurious. Oh...and the soft leather does make me kinda sweaty too on longer drives...but almost all leather seems to do that in my case.
All in all for me it makes a perfect 2nd car.
Last edited by NorCalIS; 05-06-12 at 10:01 PM.
05-06-12, 03:53 AM
#11
I'd say the brakes on our SC430 and IS350 are about the same as far as responsiveness. I just got the SC430's worked on and they are as attentive as the IS350. The difference you judged could be age/maintenance.
That's my thought, anyway,
ds
That's my thought, anyway,
ds
05-08-12, 04:01 PM
#14
Thanks for all the feedback guys, after two days of negotiating the dealer just wouldn't give me what I wanted, so for now I'm going to stick with the IS. I will continue to look around, and hopefully return to this in a couple months. Thanks again guys.
05-08-12, 04:23 PM
#15
Moderator
Sounds like a wise move to me...there are lots of SCs to be found and conquered. Good luck with your quest. From your description of the dealer's tactics, I question their ethics.