Drilled & Slotted Rotors- Suggestions
05-15-14, 09:44 PM
#16
So after much debate I purchased some from Ebay. I looked at all the suggested brands and those such as Brembo, Willwood, EBC, Power Slot, StopTech, etc were just way out of my price range at this moment. I decided to go with Kinetic Rotors and 8 ceramic pads (actually branded as Power Stop). They can be found on eBay under the store for BrakeMotive. From all my research, they are/were the same company. I made sure that they were an exact fit for my vehicle. I even contacted the company and they were willing to extended the 30 day return period to 60 days, if I wasn't satisfied.
As for the specifics for our cars, the front rotors is vented while the rear rotor is sold. These rotors are cross drilled and slotted, as I prefer the look more to only slotted even though I know from your advice they will have increased pad wear. This will just have to be something that I will have to keep i mind "(ie. avoid excessive braking/riding the brake). I made sure these had the highest quality in comparison to the big name brands, including G3000 casting, silver zinc dichromate finish, chamfered drilled holes, and rounded slots. The pads are premium ceramic compound, have dual layer rubber shims, positive molded, and include the mounting hardware. The set has also been thermally scorched for faster break in.
I paid a total of $195 and have called around for installation estimates. They've ranged from $140-250. Does anyone have a more accurate estimate so I don't get robbed? The other thing that I found was that some of the manufacturers are cryogenically treating their rotors. A specific brand called Frozen, and a few others, do this process. From what I've read cryogenic treatment is more for track applications but some choose to put them on daily drivers. Supposedly crygoenic are less likely to crack and have extended rotor life. Does anyone have any specific info on this topic? Thanks to all in advance. As my install progress I will update this thread with my results and reviews after some time on the road.
To all those that will bust my chops for going cheap, maybe in the near future after some saving I can upgrade to a more reputable company. (which is a common trend in my history) :-)
As for the specifics for our cars, the front rotors is vented while the rear rotor is sold. These rotors are cross drilled and slotted, as I prefer the look more to only slotted even though I know from your advice they will have increased pad wear. This will just have to be something that I will have to keep i mind "(ie. avoid excessive braking/riding the brake). I made sure these had the highest quality in comparison to the big name brands, including G3000 casting, silver zinc dichromate finish, chamfered drilled holes, and rounded slots. The pads are premium ceramic compound, have dual layer rubber shims, positive molded, and include the mounting hardware. The set has also been thermally scorched for faster break in.
I paid a total of $195 and have called around for installation estimates. They've ranged from $140-250. Does anyone have a more accurate estimate so I don't get robbed? The other thing that I found was that some of the manufacturers are cryogenically treating their rotors. A specific brand called Frozen, and a few others, do this process. From what I've read cryogenic treatment is more for track applications but some choose to put them on daily drivers. Supposedly crygoenic are less likely to crack and have extended rotor life. Does anyone have any specific info on this topic? Thanks to all in advance. As my install progress I will update this thread with my results and reviews after some time on the road.
To all those that will bust my chops for going cheap, maybe in the near future after some saving I can upgrade to a more reputable company. (which is a common trend in my history) :-)
05-16-14, 11:34 AM
#21
Thanks everyone for the vote of confidence! I've done brakes and rotors on my 99 Chrylser Sebring but I just don't have the tools here this time around. At home i have a 2 ton floor jack but here I'd be stuck with my OEM scissor jack and I don't have any covered parking. I'm still debating on doing it myself or to ask a new shop that did my O2 sensor and oil change for only $150. Which is a steal! Maybe they will help me out again. New shop wants repeat business so they are going above and beyond. If they will total the job for $200, I will likely go that direction.
SC4ME, I also looked at Callahan before deciding on Kinetic/BrakeMotive. I was torn between the two and chose Kinetic/BrakeMotive only b'c I saw that every one that purchased Kinetic/BrakeMotive said that they are stamped with PowerStop labels. And PowerStop had lots of great reviews. Give it some thought.
SC4ME, I also looked at Callahan before deciding on Kinetic/BrakeMotive. I was torn between the two and chose Kinetic/BrakeMotive only b'c I saw that every one that purchased Kinetic/BrakeMotive said that they are stamped with PowerStop labels. And PowerStop had lots of great reviews. Give it some thought.
05-16-14, 06:07 PM
#22
Thanks everyone for the vote of confidence! I've done brakes and rotors on my 99 Chrylser Sebring but I just don't have the tools here this time around. At home i have a 2 ton floor jack but here I'd be stuck with my OEM scissor jack and I don't have any covered parking. I'm still debating on doing it myself or to ask a new shop that did my O2 sensor and oil change for only $150. Which is a steal! Maybe they will help me out again. New shop wants repeat business so they are going above and beyond. If they will total the job for $200, I will likely go that direction.
SC4ME, I also looked at Callahan before deciding on Kinetic/BrakeMotive. I was torn between the two and chose Kinetic/BrakeMotive only b'c I saw that every one that purchased Kinetic/BrakeMotive said that they are stamped with PowerStop labels. And PowerStop had lots of great reviews. Give it some thought.
SC4ME, I also looked at Callahan before deciding on Kinetic/BrakeMotive. I was torn between the two and chose Kinetic/BrakeMotive only b'c I saw that every one that purchased Kinetic/BrakeMotive said that they are stamped with PowerStop labels. And PowerStop had lots of great reviews. Give it some thought.
05-16-14, 06:27 PM
#23
05-16-14, 07:43 PM
#24
OK so onto the next question since I have these rotors ordered. I know that rust is a common thing with all rotors experience sooner or later and humidity and water take their toll. I do know that the brushed areas will clear after driving the vehicle but what about the noncontact areas? Does anyone have any recommendation to prevent rust on the noncontact parts of the rotor (including the hub and the vanes)? I know some have said to paint the hub with high temp caliper paint, but if you use brake cleaner at any point this will bubble and peel the paint. I read lots of stuff on this "Hyde's Serum Ruststopper." Does anyone have any experience with this stuff, or any other products or advice? I checked out google for reviews and everyone says this stuff is amazing and works as described. http://www.autogeek.net/hydes-serum-rust-stopper.html. What do you all think?
05-16-14, 08:00 PM
#25
OK so onto the next question since I have these rotors ordered. I know that rust is a common thing with all rotors experience sooner or later and humidity and water take their toll. I do know that the brushed areas will clear after driving the vehicle but what about the noncontact areas? Does anyone have any recommendation to prevent rust on the noncontact parts of the rotor (including the hub and the vanes)? I know some have said to paint the hub with high temp caliper paint, but if you use brake cleaner at any point this will bubble and peel the paint. I read lots of stuff on this "Hyde's Serum Ruststopper." Does anyone have any experience with this stuff, or any other products or advice? I checked out google for reviews and everyone says this stuff is amazing and works as described. http://www.autogeek.net/hydes-serum-rust-stopper.html. What do you all think?
Last edited by texsexlex; 05-16-14 at 08:04 PM. Reason: left out something
05-16-14, 08:39 PM
#26
ShawnOk, if you refer to my earlier post on this thread with the drilled and slotted rotors you will see zero rust because the rotors are zinc coated. These rotors were on my coupe for two years before I replaced them with Brembos. I washed my car frequently and never had an issue with rust. Also, if you are replacing the rotors and brake pads there is no need to breed your brakes unless you are removing/disconnecting the brake line from the calipers.
05-16-14, 08:42 PM
#27
are the zinc coated rotors available in stores? and shawn i was looking to use anti rust on my rotors as well. its really an eye sore, im guessing rustoleum or engine enamel for high temp?
05-16-14, 09:01 PM
#28
Not sure. I purchased my rotors from brake performance. Like others you can try ebay as well.
www.brakeperformance.com
www.brakeperformance.com
05-16-14, 09:13 PM
#29
SC4ME, the ones i've ordered (Kinetic/BrakeMotive) are zinc coated but I still worry about retaining their pristine finish. From what I've read in terms of worst to best in terms of rotor rust is Zinc>Cadmium>Composite (http://www.ebay.com/gds/How-to-Find-...7404702/g.html)
I thought if I use this Hyde's Serum to pretreat the noncontact areas, they will look better for longer. I thought about high temp paint too but I think i'd like to retain the true metallic finish rather than a paint halo around the hub. Plus, if I ever choose to use brake cleaner, I heard it will just eat up the paint, and then I will just have to remove the rotors to repaint them anyway. That would put me back at square one.
I thought if I use this Hyde's Serum to pretreat the noncontact areas, they will look better for longer. I thought about high temp paint too but I think i'd like to retain the true metallic finish rather than a paint halo around the hub. Plus, if I ever choose to use brake cleaner, I heard it will just eat up the paint, and then I will just have to remove the rotors to repaint them anyway. That would put me back at square one.
05-16-14, 09:16 PM
#30
Thanks for the info, Darth and Tex! Darth, in your pic was the halo area around the hub painted also or is that the actual zinc finish? I also worried since you went with EBC, a much better quality item than the one's I've ordered. I thought pretreating them with this Hyde's Serum couldn't hurt before putting them on the car.
Last edited by ShawnOk; 05-16-14 at 09:21 PM.