SC430 - 2nd Gen (2001-2010)

'06 looks like Valve Stem Seals Leaking

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Old 01-17-18, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Poqman
yes there was. The odor clung to my clothes after walking to the rear of the car to witness the smoke and it also clung to my garage if I started the engine before opening the garage door.
Hmm, maybe I need to change mine also. There is a little bit of smoke on start up and it does stink.
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The pcv system is one of the most overlooked by the car care community. A proper functioning one is more important than most realize. The sc uses a spring loaded type. Just because it rattles doesn't mean it's ok. The spring can be broken and still rattle. If it doesn't rattle it means it's stuck, or plugged. If a hose is cracked or loose, you are allowing unmetered, unfiltered air in the engine. A pcv system not operating correctly can cause any of the following problems. Excessive oil consumption, oil drawn into the clean side of the system, accelerated oil contamination, high crankcase pressure. Many have run the crankcase dry of oil, because they didn't realize oil was being sucked up into the intake from a broken pcv system. Blown seals, contamination of catalytic converters. Not worth it over a $8 part. Stuck open or closed it it's just a different set of issues.

Many by new cars don't use spring loaded valves anymore. They use oil separators, or fixed orifice valve. This doesn't mean no maintenance though. You still need to inspect, clean or replace them.
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Is the SC PCV a Lexus only type part or are there generic PCVs available for it?
Old 01-17-18, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Harold57
Is the SC PCV a Lexus only type part or are there generic PCVs available for it?
You can get it at the zone for $6. I would assume you can get it at any auto parts store.
Old 01-17-18, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyCake
Boy was this guy wrong. What an idiot!!
LoL, don’t feel bad! I too thought he needed valve seals and guides!
I must say, this is the first time I have ever heard anyone describe this happening to an SC430 engine.

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Old 01-17-18, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bgw70
LoL, don’t feel bad! I too thought he needed valve seals!I must say, this is the first time I have ever heard anyone describe this happening...
One of the reasons I looked at the PCV was because I couldn't find anyone complaining of worn valve seals or valve guides. One note is there are two different styles of PCV on our engines. I believe from 2002-2004, they used a plug in PCV, but either in 2005 or 2006 they changed to a threaded PCV. The first one I picked up at O'Reillys was the wrong one. You may want to check the box before going home. If I had it would have saved me a trip back to exchange.
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Originally Posted by Poqman
One of the reasons I looked at the PCV was because I couldn't find anyone complaining of worn valve seals or valve guides. One note is there are two different styles of PCV on our engines. I believe from 2002-2004, they used a plug in PCV, but either in 2005 or 2006 they changed to a threaded PCV. The first one I picked up at O'Reillys was the wrong one. You may want to check the box before going home. If I had it would have saved me a trip back to exchange.
I changed the PCV in my 2002 soon after I purchased. It was one of the many Maintenance items On my list.

I recall reading a thread about the PCV valve becoming threaded.

I am just glad it was an inexpensive fix for you! Those are the best ones! ;-)
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The stuck open pcv valve is allowing oil to be pulled into the intake. When you shut the engine off that oil on in the intake runners pools up on the back of the valves. Kind of like a nearly empty bottle of ketchup turn upside down. It didn't look like much was in there, but after it all pools up it's a fair amount. That's why so much smoke on startup. The smoke after its warm is less because one there's not as much all at once. So you get the symptoms of valve seals. Anytime your burning excessive oil. the pcv valve should be one of the first things to check.
Obviously pogman had a fair amount either or pooled still in low spots of the intake, and or the exhaust.
I too thought after he replaced the pcv without improvement, that it was the valve seals.

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thats not the case

Originally Posted by Poqman
Okay, one last updat helped.

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Old 09-04-21, 02:28 PM
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With all that oil burning, I suggest the OP run Marvel Mystery Oil or Seafoam in his crankcase to clean up the residue left on the rings.

I wouldn't have diagnosed valve seals on a Lexus V8 engine, with 90K miles, which had been "meticulously maintained." It just doesn't happen, and thus, is why I own two, and would have more if my wife would let me!
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