roof don't close
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roof don't close
Hello,
I am french so sorry if my english is bad.
I have a problem with the roof of my SC430. I was able to lower it without difficulty today..
But since then, it's impossible for me to close it. The close button does not react.
If I press on the open button, I can hear a small contact noise that seems to confirm that the button is functional.
I even tested with another air conditioning unit because I had one in stock and it's same.
In short, I do not see where the problem can come from. And I find myself with the car open roof ....
The open / closed button does not turn on red either.
It lights up red only if I'm "having fun" pressing the trunk lock button in the glove box.
But otherwise nothing at all ...
Do you have an idea please
I am french so sorry if my english is bad.
I have a problem with the roof of my SC430. I was able to lower it without difficulty today..
But since then, it's impossible for me to close it. The close button does not react.
If I press on the open button, I can hear a small contact noise that seems to confirm that the button is functional.
I even tested with another air conditioning unit because I had one in stock and it's same.
In short, I do not see where the problem can come from. And I find myself with the car open roof ....
The open / closed button does not turn on red either.
It lights up red only if I'm "having fun" pressing the trunk lock button in the glove box.
But otherwise nothing at all ...
Do you have an idea please
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Sound like one of the many switches or senors May have failed. But the obvious questions are: have you checked all the fuses and have you disconnected the battery for a minimum of 30 seconds. There are several fuses associated with the convertible top. Sometimes, a reset of the roof ECU (battery disconnect) resolves the error.
Regarding switches/senors, there are several. Without an error, (trouble code -DTC) code. It is difficult to diagnose. If you can get a trouble code we are pretty good at coming up with solutions. Unfortunately the trouble codes are proprietary to Lexus (B2500-2550) and most generic OBDII readers will not capture them. In addition, the are active codes so they are not stored after the ignition is shut off. This typically means going to a dealer for diagnosis of the problem.
Regarding switches/senors, there are several. Without an error, (trouble code -DTC) code. It is difficult to diagnose. If you can get a trouble code we are pretty good at coming up with solutions. Unfortunately the trouble codes are proprietary to Lexus (B2500-2550) and most generic OBDII readers will not capture them. In addition, the are active codes so they are not stored after the ignition is shut off. This typically means going to a dealer for diagnosis of the problem.
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Thanks for your feedback.
I tried to unplug the battery for a few minutes but without success.
I will test by unplugging it longer.
Should it disconnect the two poles of the battery or the negative terminal is enough?
Thank you
I tried to unplug the battery for a few minutes but without success.
I will test by unplugging it longer.
Should it disconnect the two poles of the battery or the negative terminal is enough?
Thank you
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Reason is if you disconnected the positive terminal and then touched the chassis or any metal this would be a direct short since the negative cable is ALWAYS GROUNDED
#5
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The convertible top system is reading an error and so your top won't go up. It is very possible that if you try the top button every time you start your car, the top will go up. This is just a temporary or one time fix.
If you don't want to wait, you can get the directions from your owner's manual and put the top up manually.
Your ultimate solution is to take the car to a TOYOTA/LEXUS mechanic. You need the toyota/lexus specific codes to find out what is wrong with your top. Once you get those codes, we can either help you solve your problem, or the mechanic can solve your problem.
If you like to solve problems yourself, you can get a copy of techstream off ebay and read the codes yourself.
If you don't want to wait, you can get the directions from your owner's manual and put the top up manually.
Your ultimate solution is to take the car to a TOYOTA/LEXUS mechanic. You need the toyota/lexus specific codes to find out what is wrong with your top. Once you get those codes, we can either help you solve your problem, or the mechanic can solve your problem.
If you like to solve problems yourself, you can get a copy of techstream off ebay and read the codes yourself.
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my problem is that nothing happens at all by pressing the close button even when starting the car.
No problem before. So I will test to disconnect the battery (I put it in recharge for the moment just in case)
And I have an OBD2 diagnostic player but that does not show anything. No false code.
But I have an "chinese" Teckstream (no OEM) never test.
I will test it if I can read somes codes.
No problem before. So I will test to disconnect the battery (I put it in recharge for the moment just in case)
And I have an OBD2 diagnostic player but that does not show anything. No false code.
But I have an "chinese" Teckstream (no OEM) never test.
I will test it if I can read somes codes.
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In order to test your top, you need to have tech stream running and press the button. After you press the button, the system does a self check and a code will pop up in techstream.
I bet you will get a "Short in pulse width modulation"
Once you get the codes, you can look at this chart to see what they mean https://www.clublexus.com/forums/att...cc__40001_.pdf
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Okay,Waiting I tried again by unplugging the battery 45 minutes and it did not change anything. The button in the open position still allows to mount the windows. But the button in the closed position does nothing.
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Please read this thread https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sc4...-problems.html ....while it was the right side and yours is the left the concept is the same. AND it turned out that owner discovered he caused his own problems. Post #14 has a PDF pointing to the problem component.
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Take a look at this picture BGW gave me. It shows the bad switch (Roof CLOSE LH) is up by the driver's side visor. Maybe you can look at the switch and see if anything is visually wrong.
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Bob, do you have the part of the Shop Manual that covers B2522?
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84742-24030 is the part he needs. But he must also check his year model and any European uniqueness.
Shop manual page 05-1294 but mine is an 02 year model. His car is an 07 I believe.
Shop manual page 05-1294 but mine is an 02 year model. His car is an 07 I believe.
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