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Old 01-31-19, 10:50 AM
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I am having a concern with a timing belt replacement. Figured it was overdue, 06 with 117k original belt. The old belt did not look bad. Putting on belt, tensioner, water pump, and both pulleys. The problem that I am having is...after aligning all three marks and rotating crankshaft, all three marks move one tooth. Rotate the crank a few times again and the marks are 2 teeth ahead. The plugs are out and the crank rotates freely. I took the belt completely off to start over with the same results. I always thought that after a few crank rotations, the marks should be back at the starting point. This is not only the cam alignment changing but the crank as well.
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Originally Posted by leexed
I am having a concern with a timing belt replacement. Figured it was overdue, 06 with 117k original belt. The old belt did not look bad. Putting on belt, tensioner, water pump, and both pulleys. The problem that I am having is...after aligning all three marks and rotating crankshaft, all three marks move one tooth. Rotate the crank a few times again and the marks are 2 teeth ahead. The plugs are out and the crank rotates freely. I took the belt completely off to start over with the same results. I always thought that after a few crank rotations, the marks should be back at the starting point. This is not only the cam alignment changing but the crank as well.
what you are seeing is correct...the belt mark will move as you turn the crank and cams...toy are okay.
your biggest concern was the correct installation of the belt...let me see if I have a good pic of my belt.
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I thought the belt marks would always return to the starting point after 3 or 4 crank revolutions. I guess that is what I am most familiar with.
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Do you have the left arrow mark on the passenger side? I installed left cam arrow on drivers side. Not sure if it would make a difference.
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Originally Posted by leexed
Do you have the left arrow mark on the passenger side? I installed left cam arrow on drivers side. Not sure if it would make a difference.
no, post 17 shows Left on drivers...look at the cam sprocket, it has an L or R matching the belt L and R.

you will need to turn the belt many times to get back to the beginning...stop looking at that.

if you lined it up correctly the first time, you are good to go.
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thank you, I will give it a go! I did notice that even though the marks on on the belt moved, while the crank pulley mark is at 6 o:clock, both cam gears are lined up correctly. I guess that is the important part.
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Originally Posted by leexed
thank you, I will give it a go! I did notice that even though the marks on on the belt moved, while the crank pulley mark is at 6 o:clock, both cam gears are lined up correctly. I guess that is the important part.
that is exactly correct...the marks on the cam sprocket and crank sprocket are what matter...

why dont you line it up, take three pictures and post them here...we can verify if you like.

also, you have already confirmed a piston won’t it a valve by turning it over by hand.

i guess you already pulled the grenade pin on the tensioner...
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some pics for you


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Sorry for the delay in responding...looks perfect!
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Here are the side by sides...




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A BIG thank you for your help!!
BTW...what part of FL are you?
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Originally Posted by leexed
A BIG thank you for your help!!
BTW...what part of FL are you?
Ed
i am in the Cocoa Beach area. How about you?

BTW, how did the old belt look on your 2006 with over a 100k Miles?
was the water pump leaking?
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west coast,,,,Port Charlotte
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everything looked good with no leaks, I was surprised. I think a belt might be like an old tire though, looks good, but can blow at any time.


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