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Old 08-25-17, 07:48 AM
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It's the China Audi naming scheme that's been running for ages - the lowest power variant is a 30 TFSI and the top is a 45. The Passat also gets a similar numbering scheme and even Buick is doing it, giving its LaCrosses horsepower numbers like 20T and 28T rather than actual engine displacement.

It's all confusing but everyone's doing it. BMW and Mercedes started it all by having variant numbers that were completely made up, like a 328 that has a 2.0 turbo four instead of the 2.8 inline six of old.
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Originally Posted by chromedome
It's the China Audi naming scheme that's been running for ages - the lowest power variant is a 30 TFSI and the top is a 45. The Passat also gets a similar numbering scheme and even Buick is doing it, giving its LaCrosses horsepower numbers like 20T and 28T rather than actual engine displacement.
Buick has not adopted that practice in the U.S., though I can't speak for other countries or where you are in Canada.
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Old 08-26-17, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by chromedome
Buick is doing it, giving its LaCrosses horsepower numbers like 20T and 28T rather than actual engine displacement.

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I always thought Buick should switch to this type of setup. I didn't knew they actually did it in China. Buick has made all of their interiors and style the same, so I think they will do it at some point.

But back to the naming thing, if Lexus or Mercedes could come up with a name and it sold like crazy and people loved the car, they would absolutely make a name change for a specific vehicle like Escalade or Navigator. Mercedes-Benz does have the Sprinter, so they do have at least one named model.
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I always thought Buick should switch to this type of setup. I didn't knew they actually did it in China. Buick has made all of their interiors and style the same, so I think they will do it at some point.

But back to the naming thing, if Lexus or Mercedes could come up with a name and it sold like crazy and people loved the car, they would absolutely make a name change for a specific vehicle like Escalade or Navigator. Mercedes-Benz does have the Sprinter, so they do have at least one named model.
They have the Mercedes Actros, which is a cab-over, European model Class 8 semi truck. Also the Metris van, which is basically a smaller version of the Sprinter. I'd also argue that the G-wagon is an actual name, nobody calls its a G500.
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They have the Mercedes Actros, which is a cab-over, European model Class 8 semi truck. Also the Metris van, which is basically a smaller version of the Sprinter. I'd also argue that the G-wagon is an actual name, nobody calls its a G500.
Thanks for the info. Never considered that most people call the G500 a G-Wagon
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
But back to the naming thing, if Lexus or Mercedes could come up with a name and it sold like crazy and people loved the car, they would absolutely make a name change for a specific vehicle like Escalade or Navigator. Mercedes-Benz does have the Sprinter, so they do have at least one named model.
Originally Posted by Aron9000
They have the Mercedes Actros, which is a cab-over, European model Class 8 semi truck. Also the Metris van, which is basically a smaller version of the Sprinter. I'd also argue that the G-wagon is an actual name, nobody calls its a G500.
The theory on naming applies to premium brand lineups, where the automaker wants buyers to recognize the premium brand; it does not apply to non-premium vehicles. Mercedes-Benz' trucks and its Smart brand lineup of superminis do not fit in their premium lineup; MB wants you to recognize its large-sized and intermediate-sized panel trucks and wagons individually -- when you want a large panel van, the automaker wants you to think "Sprinter", not confuse it with A-, B-, C-, E-Class cars. In fact, with the variety of options available (short wheelbase, long wheelbase, low roof, high roof, etc.), the Sprinter is a brand in itself and Mercedes-Benz wants you to recognize and identify with that van brand.
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I dont see the point of having ANY engine numbers or whatever on the car.I suppose that the owner knows what he/she has bought anyway ? Fact is that 99% of the better Audi cars ( A6, A7, Q7 and so on) at least here in Europe has model and engine name removed from factory, except for maybe AMG/RS models. And its the very same for MB and BMW. To me its like having the living area of your house or apartment written on the door.
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Originally Posted by Mr Bond
I dont see the point of having ANY engine numbers or whatever on the car.I suppose that the owner knows what he/she has bought anyway ? Fact is that 99% of the better Audi cars ( A6, A7, Q7 and so on) at least here in Europe has model and engine name removed from factory, except for maybe AMG/RS models. And its the very same for MB and BMW. To me its like having the living area of your house or apartment written on the door.
I think V6 or V8 is nice to see in some circumstances. My 4Runner says V8 on the front grille. But the 3.5 or 4.0 is kinda pointless these days.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Thanks for the info. Never considered that most people call the G500 a G-Wagon

G-Wagon is short for "Gelandewagen". It is a German term that literally means "Off-Road" vehicle.
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Default Audi's new naming system not coming to America

The new Audi naming system for differentiating car models will not be coming to the United States. According to U.S. Audi representatives at the Audi A7 reveal, it wasn't really necessary since there are far fewer powertrain options here than in Europe and elsewhere. Audi's initial announcement stated that it would be a global change.

The idea behind the new naming system was that instead of badging cars based on displacement (an A42.0T, for instance), it will instead badge them based on horsepower. But unlike Jaguar-Land Rover, which will simply put the rounded horsepower number on the back of the car, the Audi system uses two-digit numbers to represent horsepower ranges. This system was to help distinguish more powerful and prestigious vehicles in a world of gasoline, diesel, and soon electric and hydrogen machinery. However, we had some concerns about how confusing it might be, since each number covered inconsistent ranges of power, and the spread of numbers wasn't consistent either.

In Europe, there are many gasoline and diesel models of similar displacement, but differing horsepower and performance, so having a better way to differentiate them all could be useful. But in the United States, there's usually only one or two gasoline engines available per model, each with distinct differences in power based on displacement. Plus, the larger, more powerful engines are already broken up with the S and RS lines, and any alternative-fuel vehicles can be distinguished simply with "e-tron" or "h-tron" depending on fuel.
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Sounds like Audi made a last minute change.
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