2018 Camry revealed
10-28-17, 11:10 AM
#676
Lexus Fanatic
Saw a black roof Camry today in the parking lot. There are two different versions. One is with the just the roof that is black and the other has the black on the door frames that extend to behind the rear doors. I still thing its part wrap like the Tacoma B-pillar.
10-28-17, 01:55 PM
#677
The entire Japanese automotive industry made huge progress in styling and technology in the 1980's.
That 1982-87 Mazda 929 Series had a beautiful fake brushed aluminium finish, and it was fully featured with AM/FM seek, scan, random, tape auto reverse, tape seek, Dolby B & C, metal tape, bass boost & 5 band graphic equalizer, but it still sounded terrible, and I always wanted a built-in tape analogue counter, while a real time counter was not available in those days.
The 1987-92 Series Mazda 929's had a slightly better system with a 7-band graphic equalizer with more satisfactory power & clarity.
By the 1992-97 929 Series, the hi-fi industry had ditched the graphic equalizer altogether; it had become fashionable to listen to the music "flat" to try reproduce the original tone in its exact state.
The 1992-97 Series 929 added a little more power & clarity.
However, it wasn't until the 1991-96 XV10 3.0 Camry 3.0 V6, and in particular, the 1996-01 3ES with single 10" sub in the rear parcel shelf had I really experienced a truly powerful & clear car hi-fi system.
I heard that these systems were made by Pioneer for TMC.
The 1991-96 Camry & 1996-01 3ES systems were great in their era, but unfashionably weak by today's standards.
My 2005-12 3GS system was reasonably clean, but had little power at only some 315 Watts.
My 2012-19 4GS at some 835 Watts is my best system ever - much cleaner & more powerful.
I heard that new 5LS has a magnificent hi fi system with some 2,000 Watts or more, if I remember correctly.
Today, they use the Class D type amplifiers which are compact, high efficiency, run cool, low power consumption, and cheaper to manufacture, at a slight cost to clarity & bass, thus a plethora of hi powered amplifiers for motor vehicles...
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That 1982-87 Mazda 929 Series had a beautiful fake brushed aluminium finish, and it was fully featured with AM/FM seek, scan, random, tape auto reverse, tape seek, Dolby B & C, metal tape, bass boost & 5 band graphic equalizer, but it still sounded terrible, and I always wanted a built-in tape analogue counter, while a real time counter was not available in those days.
The 1987-92 Series Mazda 929's had a slightly better system with a 7-band graphic equalizer with more satisfactory power & clarity.
By the 1992-97 929 Series, the hi-fi industry had ditched the graphic equalizer altogether; it had become fashionable to listen to the music "flat" to try reproduce the original tone in its exact state.
The 1992-97 Series 929 added a little more power & clarity.
However, it wasn't until the 1991-96 XV10 3.0 Camry 3.0 V6, and in particular, the 1996-01 3ES with single 10" sub in the rear parcel shelf had I really experienced a truly powerful & clear car hi-fi system.
I heard that these systems were made by Pioneer for TMC.
The 1991-96 Camry & 1996-01 3ES systems were great in their era, but unfashionably weak by today's standards.
My 2005-12 3GS system was reasonably clean, but had little power at only some 315 Watts.
My 2012-19 4GS at some 835 Watts is my best system ever - much cleaner & more powerful.
I heard that new 5LS has a magnificent hi fi system with some 2,000 Watts or more, if I remember correctly.
Today, they use the Class D type amplifiers which are compact, high efficiency, run cool, low power consumption, and cheaper to manufacture, at a slight cost to clarity & bass, thus a plethora of hi powered amplifiers for motor vehicles...
.
I know what you mean by a lot of 80's/90's cars having crap radios. Its just that quality sound equipment was so much more expensive back in the day, aftermarket Alpine cassette players were like $500(in 1985 dollars!!!). Also OEM's were not really that in tune with putting the speakers in the right place or giving you a decent sized speaker to start with. My old Toyota truck had them in the lower part of the dash pointed towards the floor, they were little 3" pieces of crap. Plenty of room on the door to mount a nice 6.5" speaker in that truck. And my truck was a "delux" model with OEM cassette, carpets, bucket seats, extra sound insulation, etc.
Getting back on topic, I hope Toyota did actually spend some $$$$ on a decent stereo with the new Camry. Have had a lot of seat time in a 2012 Camry with the optional JBL stereo, man what a gigantic piece of crap that is. Absolutely no mid-bass, none, zero, zilch. You get tinny highs and a very muddled bass line from a weak subwoofer under the front seat.
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