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Old 12-28-17, 08:08 AM
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I live on long island where goes below 20 degrees in the morning now. When I cold start the car, there is a huge grinding sound from the engine. It lasts less than a second and doesn't continue once the engine is running.
Since the sound goes away when the car warms up, I want to find the cause of it first and bring to the dealer so that they won't push me away.
I googled it and some Honda owner said it may due to a bad starter for a manual transmission. I can't find any information for any Lexus with auto transmission. Anyone experienced this or can confirm the cause of it?

https://mechanics.stackexchange.com/...ing-cold-start

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Recording this sound would help.

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Old 12-29-17, 06:13 AM
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With the abnormally cold temps here, my fan has started to make a pretty annoying sound after sitting outside at work all day.

It sounds different from yours, though, and eventually stops once things warm up.
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+1..... I think I would be looking at the fan clutch.

Might be something to check

https://itstillruns.com/test-fan-clutch-5086903.html
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+2 fan clutch or fan cooling bracket. Sometimes the belt tensioner may make some grinding noise too if the bearing is bad.
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+1..... I think I would be looking at the fan clutch.

Might be something to check

https://itstillruns.com/test-fan-clutch-5086903.html
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Old 12-31-17, 07:05 PM
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I tried to record that sound but it didn't really come up. There were a few loud starts but no grinding sound. I don't know why maybe it has a certain temperature range and it's been too cold now. I'm pretty sure it came up almost every time at around 32 degrees.
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I wonder if it could also be the AC compressor clutch? You may be able to test by making sure HVAC is fully turned off on starts.
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^^ AC compressor runs immediately upon start up?
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I don't think it should but perhaps the clutch is sticking and going out... more than likely one of the other suggestions though

Looks like it can operate down to 29.3F





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I had this sound as well car was parked outside and here in Montreal it got almost to -42C, I remote started it and hear like a crazy screaming noise.
it did go away after 3-4 minutes.
I called Lexus right away and told me if it occurs again to bring it in.
Thank good it did not get that cold again but we got another 4 months to go
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Originally Posted by naser075
I had this sound as well car was parked outside and here in Montreal it got almost to -42C, I remote started it and hear like a crazy screaming noise.
it did go away after 3-4 minutes.
I called Lexus right away and told me if it occurs again to bring it in.
Thank good it did not get that cold again but we got another 4 months to go
I think your sound might have different reasons from mine since it last a while. Mine was just like a friction of a second. To me, yours might have something to do with the inner part of the engine due to extreme temp. Just my guess not 100% sure.

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Originally Posted by cicio
I think your sound might have different reasons from mine since it last a while. Mine was just like a friction of a second. To me, yours might have something to do with the inner part of the engine due to extreme temp. Just my guess not 100% sure.
no idea but it never came back maybe it will then i can bring it in today is another very cold day and i just checked and it did not do the noise at all
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