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Old 12-19-17, 07:41 PM
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The 2019 Avalon is nearly here... and still there is no AWD standard or optional. If there is no AWD option for the now huge Camry there should be AWD available on this model that is even larger.

Or... Toyota could start selling the RWD/AWD Mark X sedan here instead of the Avalon... ;D

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Old 01-05-18, 12:26 PM
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Those awkward looking grills! The Lexus one's are only just growing on me....but the Toyota one's are ..... well I better not say!
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I've seen several new Audi's with something similar still wonder if it is OEM or aftermarket.


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Direction of the light fade does not make sense. I understand why they did it like they did, they've managed to overcome the obsolete obstacle in regulation. I think better solution would have been to have the trunk part static and outer part that dims down from top to bottom but once trunk is open directional dim gets overridden by even fade.

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Old 01-05-18, 02:48 PM
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Kinda cool turn signals for a Toyota. Can’t wait to see it. Buick should have some concern when this Avalon is released.

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Old 01-05-18, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Kinda cool turn signals for a Toyota. Can’t wait to see it.

Although, of course, this is the first time we've seen them with modern LEDs, the general idea of sequential turn signals is nothing new. My dad had a 1965 Thunderbird with them, and they were used extensively in 60s-vintage T-Birds and Mercury Cougars....and on some recent Mustangs. GM did not adopt the system because they felt it was confusing to other drivers. I disagree; at least I had no problem deciphering it.


Buick should have some concern when this Avalon is released.
You're putting the cart before the horse. That depends if Toyota does it right this time or not. The last new introduction of the Avalon brought too much flimsiness inside (despite a plush look on the surface) and an unacceptably firm suspension for the vast majority of its buyers. Both were addressed for the 2016 mid-generation update....we'll see what happens this time.
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Originally Posted by mjeds
I've seen several new Audi's with something similar still wonder if it is OEM or aftermarket.
The new Audi ones are OEM.
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Originally Posted by Vladi
Direction of the light fade does not make sense. I understand why they did it like they did, they've managed to overcome the obsolete obstacle in regulation. I think better solution would have been to have the trunk part static and outer part that dims down from top to bottom but once trunk is open directional dim gets overridden by even fade.
I agree that the direction of the light fade is less than ideal, but as you note, it's likely to get the initial blink to light up the XX% of the total area per the regulatory mandate.

Audi gets around this in the U.S. by lighting up the brake light as the turn signal, and then the concurrent motion LED can just be the additional flair. In other countries Audi can get by with just the swiping LED light indicator.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Although, of course, this is the first time we've seen them with modern LEDs, ...
I think newer mustangs have had them for several years.
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Looks like an LS500. I'm less inclined now to go for the LS500. Off to Mercedes.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
I think newer mustangs have had them for several years.

Yeah, sorry......technically, you're right. But my point was that the general idea is nothing new. I can remember sequential turn-lights on Ford products from a half-century ago. Personally, I think they are merely a gimmick.
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Old 01-15-18, 04:36 AM
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New Avalon details here:

Looks very frumpy...




That front end /facepalm




The back looks very robo...but not feeling the side lines at all!



Interior looks a little disjointed... plasticy in some places, and ok in others.



Overall...Tried too hard on the exterior to make the crazy Camry normalized, but that gaping maw though!
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Old 01-15-18, 04:46 AM
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Good lawd, that is awful!
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