New Generation IS
01-24-18, 06:30 PM
#32
3IS was unveiled in January 2013 at the North American International Auto Show.
On the 25th of April 2013, production began.
On the 28th June 2013, 3IS sales began in the USA as a 2014 Model.
Similar with my 4GS.
Production began in December 2011.
On January 26th 2012, 4GS sales began in Japan.
In February 2012, 4GS sales began in the USA as a "2013 Model" - following the marketing techniques of GM's late Alfred P. Sloan.
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On the 25th of April 2013, production began.
On the 28th June 2013, 3IS sales began in the USA as a 2014 Model.
Similar with my 4GS.
Production began in December 2011.
On January 26th 2012, 4GS sales began in Japan.
In February 2012, 4GS sales began in the USA as a "2013 Model" - following the marketing techniques of GM's late Alfred P. Sloan.
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Last edited by peteharvey; 01-24-18 at 06:51 PM.
01-24-18, 08:48 PM
#33
Traditionally, tech flows from LS to GS, and then onto IS, such that the IS uses essentially the same platform and drivelines as the GS, but released the following year.
Thus, the 1998 2GS was followed by the 1999 1IS.
The 2005 3GS was followed by the 2006 2IS.
The 2012 4GS was followed by the 2013 3IS.
It follows that the 2019 5GS will be followed by a 2020 4IS....
Thus, the 1998 2GS was followed by the 1999 1IS.
The 2005 3GS was followed by the 2006 2IS.
The 2012 4GS was followed by the 2013 3IS.
It follows that the 2019 5GS will be followed by a 2020 4IS....
2GS started production in 08/1997, 1IS started production in 10/1998 (01/1999 for export).
3GS started production in 01/2005, 2IS started production in 08/2005.
4GS started production in 12/2011, 3IS started production in 04/2013.
So approx. 14 month gap, 7 month gap, and 16 month gap, respectively.
I would expect (but wouldn't necessarily count on) the gap from 5GS to 4IS to be similar as well, like peteharvey was saying.
Jeff
01-25-18, 08:23 AM
#34
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For production:
2GS started production in 08/1997, 1IS started production in 10/1998 (01/1999 for export).
3GS started production in 01/2005, 2IS started production in 08/2005.
4GS started production in 12/2011, 3IS started production in 04/2013.
So approx. 14 month gap, 7 month gap, and 16 month gap, respectively.
I would expect (but wouldn't necessarily count on) the gap from 5GS to 4IS to be similar as well, like peteharvey was saying.
Jeff
2GS started production in 08/1997, 1IS started production in 10/1998 (01/1999 for export).
3GS started production in 01/2005, 2IS started production in 08/2005.
4GS started production in 12/2011, 3IS started production in 04/2013.
So approx. 14 month gap, 7 month gap, and 16 month gap, respectively.
I would expect (but wouldn't necessarily count on) the gap from 5GS to 4IS to be similar as well, like peteharvey was saying.
Jeff
But, the takeaway is that the GS should provide a decent preview of the new IS's features and powertrain.
01-25-18, 01:47 PM
#35
Historically, before 1989, the Japanese government used to have a higher tax bracket for motor vehicles that exceeded 4.7 m length, 1.7 m wide and 2000 cc.
Thus Toyota had two midsize cars called the Crown, and the Mark II - sharing the same platform and drive lines.
The Mark II was half a size smaller to sneak under the higher tax bracket.
The Crown is available in the standard Royal Saloon, Majesta luxury, and Athlete sports.
In a similar way, the Mark II was the standard, the Cresta was the luxury, and the Chaser the sports; today, it is only available in Mark X.
The Mark II was exported under the name Toyota Cressida.
1987-91 Toyota Crown midsize JDM
1988-92 Toyota Mark II [Cressida in export markets] - 1/2 size smaller for lower tax bracket.
Today's Toyota Mark X JDM [1/2 size smaller than midsize Crown]
In the same way, Nissan has the midsize Cedric, and a 1/2 size smaller Skyline range to sneak under the Japanese Passenger Vehicle higher tax limit.
1983-87 Nissan Cedric
1981-85 Nissan Skyline [1/2 size smaller for the lower tax bracket in Japanese Domestic Market]
By 1989, the Japanese government abolished the 4.7m x 1.7m & 2000 cc higher tax bracket to enable Japanese cars to be larger and more competitive globally.
However, the 1/2 size smaller Toyota Mark Series continues to evolve & be sold in Japan, and so too the Nissan Skyline - to this very day.
In 1989, because the Lexus line was established for Toyota luxury products, the 1988-92 Toyota Cressida was no longer imported to the United States after 1992.
The locally built Toyota Avalon in FWD with cheap single lower link MacPherson struts was supposed to replace the Toyota Cressida RWD with front double wishbone and rear multilink suspension.
By the 2nd half of the 1990's, TMC created their luxury compact in the Toyota Altezza/Lexus IS.
Just as the Mark/Cresta/Chaser/Cressida was 1/2 a size smaller than the midsize Toyota Crown/Majesta/Athlete & Lexus GS, the Toyota Altezza/Lexus IS was built on the same Toyota N Platform & drivelines, and 1/2 a size smaller again - to be a genuine compact.
Toyota Altezza/Lexus IS production began in October 1998, and it immediately won Japan's 1998 Car of the Year Award...
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01-26-18, 07:49 AM
#37
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I still find it funny how reviews for the F-Sport and IS F made a point to comment how its 8-speed is "very good for a torque-converter unit", but now we're noticing Audi abandon dual-clutch in some of their cars. Not an Audi hater... Just saying 
Would actually love to own an S4/S5 if maintaining them wasn't like playing a game of Jenga.
Test drove a 2011 S5 6MT last year and that there is one slick car. Absolutely beautiful engine.
Would actually love to own an S4/S5 if maintaining them wasn't like playing a game of Jenga.
Test drove a 2011 S5 6MT last year and that there is one slick car. Absolutely beautiful engine.
01-27-18, 06:59 PM
#39
I also don't see the need for so many overdrive gears; however, people seem to say the performance of the 10 speed is much better than the 8 speed. If true, I would rather have the 10 speed because I think the gears on the 8 speed are too tall and it can be a little slow.
01-29-18, 07:18 AM
#40
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I also don't see the need for so many overdrive gears; however, people seem to say the performance of the 10 speed is much better than the 8 speed. If true, I would rather have the 10 speed because I think the gears on the 8 speed are too tall and it can be a little slow.
02-01-18, 02:31 PM
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They need something with more power. I'm over here with a lease that is up in November, looking at a KIA Stinger GT... Dont know if I can deal with the kind of not cool looking dash though.
02-02-18, 09:19 AM
#44
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I do appreciate the use of real metal trim in the stinger, something we don't get much of (or any?
) in the IS.