I want to do this to my headliner...
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I know this concept car debuted some time ago (Cadillac Elmiraj - 4 or 5 yrs back), but it's still the most beautiful sedan I have ever laid eyes on (Google it). This is the interior, and I'm seriously considering getting out a sketch pad and designing a fitting interpretation of this most unconventional wood laminate headliner for my LS430. (In Birdseye maple to match my wood trim, of course)
I love the headliner in this car!
Thoughts/feedback?
I love the headliner in this car!
Thoughts/feedback?
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Forgot about that one. That 'galaxy' look is quite interesting too. Of course, in a car with an almond interior, maybe I'll consider a hybrid of the two. Wood veneer with fiber-optics sprinkled throughout. Invisible in the daytime, of course.
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I know this concept car debuted some time ago (Cadillac Elmiraj - 4 or 5 yrs back), but it's still the most beautiful sedan I have ever laid eyes on (Google it). This is the interior, and I'm seriously considering getting out a sketch pad and designing a fitting interpretation of this most unconventional wood laminate headliner for my LS430. (In Birdseye maple to match my wood trim, of course)
I love the headliner in this car!
Thoughts/feedback?
I love the headliner in this car!
Thoughts/feedback?
I care about how music sounds in my car. I'm a big fan of the swede style headliner in my UL. Seems to limit sounds bouncing off the roof. You can get an idea of the benefit the swede headliner provides acoustically just by sliding the moon roof cover back exposing the glass while you have music playing.
I'm not a sound engineer, so take my thoughts with a grain of salt. just my personal taste. I'd be concerned that laminate would make for some poor acoustics.
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That looks great! Strictly aesthetically speaking - very cool.
I care about how music sounds in my car. I'm a big fan of the swede style headliner in my UL. Seems to limit sounds bouncing off the roof. You can get an idea of the benefit the swede headliner provides acoustically just by sliding the moon roof cover back exposing the glass while you have music playing.
I'm not a sound engineer, so take my thoughts with a grain of salt. just my personal taste. I'd be concerned that laminate would make for some poor acoustics.
I care about how music sounds in my car. I'm a big fan of the swede style headliner in my UL. Seems to limit sounds bouncing off the roof. You can get an idea of the benefit the swede headliner provides acoustically just by sliding the moon roof cover back exposing the glass while you have music playing.
I'm not a sound engineer, so take my thoughts with a grain of salt. just my personal taste. I'd be concerned that laminate would make for some poor acoustics.
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in all the photos of that caddy i saw none of them looked like a sedan. But as far as the headliner goes, the rolls royce "starlight" headliner is the best in the game as far as i am concerned. There is actually a member on here that has done that to his LS. i think his screen name is "SUPERFATURA" or something. or maybe Gio? cant remember.
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in all the photos of that caddy i saw none of them looked like a sedan. But as far as the headliner goes, the rolls royce "starlight" headliner is the best in the game as far as i am concerned. There is actually a member on here that has done that to his LS. i think his screen name is "SUPERFATURA" or something. or maybe Gio? cant remember.
http://www.lumitex.com/
I believe Rolls Royce uses a fiber-optic bundle that is plugged into a light engine. The indiviual flexible fibre strands routed to create the headliner starlight effect.
It would make sense to use this approach, otherwise conduit would be necessary for indindividual bulbs.
The Lumitex approach is also an inert light that can be color filtered...no heat
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For automotive fiber optics, light engines and panels, check out:
http://www.lumitex.com/
I believe Rolls Royce uses a fiber-optic bundle that is plugged into a light engine. The indiviual flexible fibre strands routed to create the headliner starlight effect.
It would make sense to use this approach, otherwise conduit would be necessary for indindividual bulbs.
The Lumitex approach is also an inert light that can be color filtered...no heat
http://www.lumitex.com/
I believe Rolls Royce uses a fiber-optic bundle that is plugged into a light engine. The indiviual flexible fibre strands routed to create the headliner starlight effect.
It would make sense to use this approach, otherwise conduit would be necessary for indindividual bulbs.
The Lumitex approach is also an inert light that can be color filtered...no heat
If the fibers are bent beyond a certain curvature, they will kink, and the light will exit at that point and not reach the tip.
That raises the question whether fiber optic backlighting will interfere with the sliding mechanisms of moonroof equipped cars.
Possible the individual fiber optic tips could be cut (not sure if cut is the correct word) at, say a 45 degree angle to avoid having to insert at a right angle, but then you would have to pilot hole and nsert at that angle and index the face cut down to the interior side glue in place and this would be tedious.
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The backside of headliner that faces roof
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Backside of headliner depicting the LED Light engines, the Fiber Optic bundles, and individual strands. Rolls Royce uses about 10 light engines/bundles comprised of about 140 fibers/bundle
![](https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clublexus.com-vbulletin/1536x1152/b_2_5_craftsmanship_starlightheadliner_04_grid_v1_jpg_rr_1536_low_3212daab99161348d9287056233ac03c49e9e251.jpg)
After gluing in place, this appears to be the trimming process. Note the headliner is uniformly perforated....and has a backing layer to adhere the fibre optic strands... In a Lexus scenario, a template or some other means will need to be employed for uniformity.
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This appears to be the template (?)
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Headliner backside
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