Price Paid for a GS-F (Lease or Purchase)
#286
#288
Originally Posted by BigMikeISF
Just purchased a new 2016 GS-F with a "Vector" package and 8k off sticker. Had a trade that brought the price way down.
#291
Lexus Champion
Y'all are correct. It's a package to drive up MSRP.
It has some additional carbon fiber (wrap) that isn't standard. Between the DRL's and headlamps on the front (almost like eyebrows) and the section on both the right and left side where the F badge is. You can see it in the picture below. I wasn't super crazy about it at first but it has grown on me a bit.
It has some additional carbon fiber (wrap) that isn't standard. Between the DRL's and headlamps on the front (almost like eyebrows) and the section on both the right and left side where the F badge is. You can see it in the picture below. I wasn't super crazy about it at first but it has grown on me a bit.
#292
Lexus Test Driver
Y'all are correct. It's a package to drive up MSRP.
It has some additional carbon fiber (wrap) that isn't standard. Between the DRL's and headlamps on the front (almost like eyebrows) and the section on both the right and left side where the F badge is. You can see it in the picture below. I wasn't super crazy about it at first but it has grown on me a bit.
It has some additional carbon fiber (wrap) that isn't standard. Between the DRL's and headlamps on the front (almost like eyebrows) and the section on both the right and left side where the F badge is. You can see it in the picture below. I wasn't super crazy about it at first but it has grown on me a bit.
#293
Lexus Champion
Completely. Still up in the air on whether to keep or have it removed. Depends on long term plans for the car.
#294
Lexus Champion
Price question for new GSF.
I have been thinking about getting a new car to update from my stock 2008 ISF with 82K miles on it and my considerations are all the normal suspect cars consisting of the GTR, Z06 and the GSF (all new).
Here is what they just offered me this past Saturday morning:
- $10K down
- Trade-in my stock never-tracked 2008 ISF (they offered me $27K)
- 3.94% interest
- 72 month loan
- Equates to a $710 monthly payment
I would appreciate anyone's advice and/or opinions on the above and here is where I have the most apprehension/heartburn:
1) Interest rate. I have 1.9% through my credit union but I told Lexus they could have a crack at trying to beat my rate (this was before the 0%'s came out) so why would they try to gouge me so hard here with 3.94% knowing what rate I had access to being I gave them the approval letter?
2) The dealership thinks I am dumber than I look. They have to think I am just an absolute idiot and would not notice the huge loan rate discrepancy. I do not want to believe that one...
Before I get all upset, what do you guys think about these numbers?
Thanks!
I have been thinking about getting a new car to update from my stock 2008 ISF with 82K miles on it and my considerations are all the normal suspect cars consisting of the GTR, Z06 and the GSF (all new).
Here is what they just offered me this past Saturday morning:
- $10K down
- Trade-in my stock never-tracked 2008 ISF (they offered me $27K)
- 3.94% interest
- 72 month loan
- Equates to a $710 monthly payment
I would appreciate anyone's advice and/or opinions on the above and here is where I have the most apprehension/heartburn:
1) Interest rate. I have 1.9% through my credit union but I told Lexus they could have a crack at trying to beat my rate (this was before the 0%'s came out) so why would they try to gouge me so hard here with 3.94% knowing what rate I had access to being I gave them the approval letter?
2) The dealership thinks I am dumber than I look. They have to think I am just an absolute idiot and would not notice the huge loan rate discrepancy. I do not want to believe that one...
Before I get all upset, what do you guys think about these numbers?
Thanks!
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Price question for new GSF.
I have been thinking about getting a new car to update from my stock 2008 ISF with 82K miles on it and my considerations are all the normal suspect cars consisting of the GTR, Z06 and the GSF (all new).
Here is what they just offered me this past Saturday morning:
- $10K down
- Trade-in my stock never-tracked 2008 ISF (they offered me $27K)
- 3.94% interest
- 72 month loan
- Equates to a $710 monthly payment
I would appreciate anyone's advice and/or opinions on the above and here is where I have the most apprehension/heartburn:
1) Interest rate. I have 1.9% through my credit union but I told Lexus they could have a crack at trying to beat my rate (this was before the 0%'s came out) so why would they try to gouge me so hard here with 3.94% knowing what rate I had access to being I gave them the approval letter?
2) The dealership thinks I am dumber than I look. They have to think I am just an absolute idiot and would not notice the huge loan rate discrepancy. I do not want to believe that one...
Before I get all upset, what do you guys think about these numbers?
Thanks!
I have been thinking about getting a new car to update from my stock 2008 ISF with 82K miles on it and my considerations are all the normal suspect cars consisting of the GTR, Z06 and the GSF (all new).
Here is what they just offered me this past Saturday morning:
- $10K down
- Trade-in my stock never-tracked 2008 ISF (they offered me $27K)
- 3.94% interest
- 72 month loan
- Equates to a $710 monthly payment
I would appreciate anyone's advice and/or opinions on the above and here is where I have the most apprehension/heartburn:
1) Interest rate. I have 1.9% through my credit union but I told Lexus they could have a crack at trying to beat my rate (this was before the 0%'s came out) so why would they try to gouge me so hard here with 3.94% knowing what rate I had access to being I gave them the approval letter?
2) The dealership thinks I am dumber than I look. They have to think I am just an absolute idiot and would not notice the huge loan rate discrepancy. I do not want to believe that one...
Before I get all upset, what do you guys think about these numbers?
Thanks!
2. Negotiate the sales price of the GSF, don't worry about the trade.
3. Once you get to a sale price you're comfortable with (I'm thinking $10k off sticker is a no brainer), then introduce the trade and don't let them know your Carmax price until they give you a trade in value.
4. Use your credit union for finance unless they meet or beat your 1.9% rate.
These cars are not selling well. Dealers will negotiate with you. Try doing all this with an Internet manager (several dealerships), the process will go much quicker and you'll likely get a better deal.
#296
Lexus Test Driver
Interest for new cars should be 1.9 from just about anywhere. That deal is near 4%, get financing elsewhere. Also negotiate the price, 8k is on the hood for leases, sales should be close to the same.
Like others have said, Lexus is cutting dealers slack on MSRP because this car has been a sales flop this year, so you should be cutthroat with the dealership. They should be happy to move it off the lot even if it means they only make a couple grand. Float that deal around to other dealers via their internet sales staff and tell them to beat the offer.
Like others have said, Lexus is cutting dealers slack on MSRP because this car has been a sales flop this year, so you should be cutthroat with the dealership. They should be happy to move it off the lot even if it means they only make a couple grand. Float that deal around to other dealers via their internet sales staff and tell them to beat the offer.
#297
Lexus Champion
1. Take your car to Carmax and get an appraisal.
2. Negotiate the sales price of the GSF, don't worry about the trade.
3. Once you get to a sale price you're comfortable with (I'm thinking $10k off sticker is a no brainer), then introduce the trade and don't let them know your Carmax price until they give you a trade in value.
4. Use your credit union for finance unless they meet or beat your 1.9% rate.
These cars are not selling well. Dealers will negotiate with you. Try doing all this with an Internet manager (several dealerships), the process will go much quicker and you'll likely get a better deal.
2. Negotiate the sales price of the GSF, don't worry about the trade.
3. Once you get to a sale price you're comfortable with (I'm thinking $10k off sticker is a no brainer), then introduce the trade and don't let them know your Carmax price until they give you a trade in value.
4. Use your credit union for finance unless they meet or beat your 1.9% rate.
These cars are not selling well. Dealers will negotiate with you. Try doing all this with an Internet manager (several dealerships), the process will go much quicker and you'll likely get a better deal.
#298
Thanks for everyone's input and I have done all those things mentioned and they are all good recommendations.
As also recommended, I have been doing the Internet sales manager thing and pitting them against each other and many do the 'bring us your best deal and we will beat it' thing... and yes I know about a dealership promising you anything just to get you to come in.
Here is a bit more data:
Sticker - $84400
Dealer Discount $9K
Trade-in + Cash $37K (will probably put down more cash but if Lexus is going to absorb the interest on my loan, I will put down the minimum cash).
Now that I have had a little time to look at this thing in a slightly clearer mind (currently heavily under the influence from a knee operation last week) and this so-called deal stinks. I have not incorporated all the taxes or any other hidden fee goodies but if I do some back-of-the-napkin match, I feel there is approximately an $8K gap.
Either way, it stinks so no sale.
As also recommended, I have been doing the Internet sales manager thing and pitting them against each other and many do the 'bring us your best deal and we will beat it' thing... and yes I know about a dealership promising you anything just to get you to come in.
Here is a bit more data:
Sticker - $84400
Dealer Discount $9K
Trade-in + Cash $37K (will probably put down more cash but if Lexus is going to absorb the interest on my loan, I will put down the minimum cash).
Now that I have had a little time to look at this thing in a slightly clearer mind (currently heavily under the influence from a knee operation last week) and this so-called deal stinks. I have not incorporated all the taxes or any other hidden fee goodies but if I do some back-of-the-napkin match, I feel there is approximately an $8K gap.
Either way, it stinks so no sale.
#299
Lexus Test Driver
Now that I have had a little time to look at this thing in a slightly clearer mind (currently heavily under the influence from a knee operation last week) and this so-called deal stinks. I have not incorporated all the taxes or any other hidden fee goodies but if I do some back-of-the-napkin match, I feel there is approximately an $8K gap.
Either way, it stinks so no sale.
Either way, it stinks so no sale.
#300
Thanks for everyone's input and I have done all those things mentioned and they are all good recommendations.
As also recommended, I have been doing the Internet sales manager thing and pitting them against each other and many do the 'bring us your best deal and we will beat it' thing... and yes I know about a dealership promising you anything just to get you to come in.
Here is a bit more data:
Sticker - $84400
Dealer Discount $9K
Trade-in + Cash $37K (will probably put down more cash but if Lexus is going to absorb the interest on my loan, I will put down the minimum cash).
Now that I have had a little time to look at this thing in a slightly clearer mind (currently heavily under the influence from a knee operation last week) and this so-called deal stinks. I have not incorporated all the taxes or any other hidden fee goodies but if I do some back-of-the-napkin match, I feel there is approximately an $8K gap.
Either way, it stinks so no sale.
As also recommended, I have been doing the Internet sales manager thing and pitting them against each other and many do the 'bring us your best deal and we will beat it' thing... and yes I know about a dealership promising you anything just to get you to come in.
Here is a bit more data:
Sticker - $84400
Dealer Discount $9K
Trade-in + Cash $37K (will probably put down more cash but if Lexus is going to absorb the interest on my loan, I will put down the minimum cash).
Now that I have had a little time to look at this thing in a slightly clearer mind (currently heavily under the influence from a knee operation last week) and this so-called deal stinks. I have not incorporated all the taxes or any other hidden fee goodies but if I do some back-of-the-napkin match, I feel there is approximately an $8K gap.
Either way, it stinks so no sale.
I'd pass.