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Old 09-21-16, 10:31 AM
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What do you think is the worst Lexus ever made?
ES250. Nothing but a badge.

Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Not the worst Lexus ever made. But if you compare the SC430 to what the competition had at the time, its easy to see why a lot of people do not like it. I always thought it had a superb interior but the rear seats are stupid. They should of made it a 2-seater
It was supposed to be. The rear seats were added to avoid a $2000 tariff on 2-seater coupes.
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Originally Posted by SW15LS
My least favorite Lexus is the CT200h, unrefined, poor interior quality, loud. HS is a close second.
agreed. the HS was far more refined and handled better than the CT though. unfortunately, the HS made jar jar binks look handsome.

Hard to make a case that the ES350 is the second worst Lexus when it's the second highest selling.
this is people's opinions, not what has sold well.

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Reading over this thread I see why I keep going back to Lexus. It's good to see that when choosing the 'worst' Lexus ever made not much said about reliability, except for the 1 V6 engine. Pick another brand and we'd be talking transmission failures and replacements, seizing engines, multiple electronics issues, etc.
keep telling yourself that. lexus/toyota are certainly very reliable, but tons of owners of other brand vehicles have no issues either. have other brands had duds? sure. has lexus had an unreliable vehicle? no, although some models have had excessive creaks/squeaks but nothing to leave an owner stranded.
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
ES250. Nothing but a badge.
Good one, never thought of the ES250.
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there was an ES250?
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I actually liked that first gen ES250. Perhaps I'm the only one.
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Originally Posted by chikoo
there was an ES250?
Yes the first gen (V20) ES 250 produced from 1989-1991 (MY90-91). Aimed at the Acura Legend.



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Old 09-21-16, 12:05 PM
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The 250 was a stopgap car that dealers wanted at launch, that's one reason why it was such a rebadge.
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Old 09-21-16, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna



keep telling yourself that. lexus/toyota are certainly very reliable, but tons of owners of other brand vehicles have no issues either. have other brands had duds? sure. has lexus had an unreliable vehicle? no, although some models have had excessive creaks/squeaks but nothing to leave an owner stranded.
I will agree, there are a lot of brands that owners have had no issues and satisfaction is top notch. The luxury segment is different, many people own multiple cars and the kms don't get added up, and the rich don't always keep their cars forever. Buying a $100K S-Class is a risky proposition once the warranty runs out so you are better off buying a Lexus....But leasing these vehicles makes more economic sense to me as I would rather have half the cars worth sitting in the bank than tied up in a car.
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Originally Posted by JDR76
I actually liked that first gen ES250. Perhaps I'm the only one.
Nope, I like the car as well. The car is comfortable, reliable and has a very nice interior. Also calling the car a rebadge is unfair there are much better examples like the Cadillac Cimarron.
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Originally Posted by Lexus2000
Nope, I like the car as well. The car is comfortable, reliable and has a very nice interior. Also calling the car a rebadge is unfair there are much better examples like the Cadillac Cimarron.
ES250 and LX450 as well as LX470 were all rebadges
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Then you will have to call the ES300/330/350 rebadges as well.
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Originally Posted by Lexus2000
Then you will have to call the ES300/330/350 rebadges as well.
They were same chassis but totally different bodies.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
They were same chassis but totally different bodies.
Same as the ES250 which has a different unibody for example the floor pan, firewall, hood, fenders, bumpers, A, B and C-pillars, quarter panels etc. are different. And it has frameless doors.
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Originally Posted by Lexus2000
Same as the ES250 which has a different unibody for example the floor pan, firewall, A, B and C-pillars, quarter panels etc. are different. And it has frameless doors.
I am going to have to look again....I never knew that. Thanks for telling me that. I learn something new every day
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I am going to have to look again....I never knew that. Thanks for telling me that. I learn something new every day
Hardly anyone does they just assume the ES250 is a straight up rebadged Camry but there is much more going on. Just like the ES models that proceeded they share almost everything mechanically but body wise there are major differences.
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