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I really think it's one of those easy cost cutting decisions to make. If something else on the car ends up pushing the car over the target cost that's probably an easy way to find some relief.
Whoops, thanks for that.
Call me bougie but I would never buy another car without xenon/LED headlights up front and LEDs in the rear. Quite frankly it still shocks me that base models on entry luxury, and even luxury makers (looking at you, Germans) are equipped with halogens. I understand cost cutting, yada yada, but it's time to move on from the yellow!
I really think it's one of those easy cost cutting decisions to make. If something else on the car ends up pushing the car over the target cost that's probably an easy way to find some relief.
I have to see it go from LED on a redesign to non-LED on a refresh. For example, 4Runner was non LED in 03, refresh in 05 got LED, redesign in 10 got non-LED and then refresh in 13 got LED. Rav 4 is the same.
I really think it's one of those easy cost cutting decisions to make. If something else on the car ends up pushing the car over the target cost that's probably an easy way to find some relief.
Not so much cost cutting as it is about trying to have some lifecycle management. Going away from LED at the beginning allows for a quick change to LED with minimal metal body tooling changes at the mid-cycle refresh for a nice visual change.
Not so much cost cutting as it is about trying to have some lifecycle management. Going away from LED at the beginning allows for a quick change to LED with minimal metal body tooling changes at the mid-cycle refresh for a nice visual change.
How do we explain the reverse, like the current Generation 3 Sienna? When introduced in 2010, it had LED tail lamps, but with the mid-cycle facelift, it regressed, switching to incandescent lamps.
How do we explain the reverse, like the current Generation 3 Sienna? When introduced in 2010, it had LED tail lamps, but with the mid-cycle facelift, it regressed, switching to incandescent lamps.
I didn't say always. That could very well be cost cutting. But overall, I know for a fact that many automakers like to use it as a lifecycle enhancement/change type of thing. Not purely for costs.
The teaser shot looks very promising ! It will be interesting to see what engine choices will be available. I really hope they continue to offer the excellent V6 & not switch to 2.0 T engine like other competitors.
For those that keep claiming the (010B) MY2018 Toyota Camry will no longer offer a V6, those are purely rumours. The XSE shown above does come standard with a NA V6 from the 2GR family. It will offer a panoramic roof, quad exhaust tips, a rear diffuser, red leather seating, LED headlight and taillights, offer two-tone paint (i.e. red and black), the 360° Bird's Eye View camera system for parking maneuvers, and much lower centre of gravity thanks to the TNGA-K platform it will debut. There is more, but I cannot recall at this moment.
If anyone has posted this or not, here is another idea. The rendering I posted to LE in May 2016 from Japanese language source Car Kuruma GT and has made its way around the internet, was extremely accurate after all. The front and rear fascias only differ from the actual US version. The JDM version will look closer to the rendering I posted in May.
I have to see it go from LED on a redesign to non-LED on a refresh. For example, 4Runner was non LED in 03, refresh in 05 got LED, redesign in 10 got non-LED and then refresh in 13 got LED. Rav 4 is the same.
Toyota and Honda have been doing this for a few generations now. It's really quite embarrassing. It's simply being done when they don't have enough newness to inject, so they play with the lights and make that a big selling point. Then when the vehicle is completely redesigned and plenty of visual changes are made, they eliminate the LED's to save money. Kind of pathetic in my opinion to not include something that cost little and is just about standard everywhere else. Even more sad to have it one year then take it away later on. These types of moves have faded in recent times except with Toyota and Honda.
Toyota and Honda have been doing this for a few generations now. It's really quite embarrassing. It's simply being done when they don't have enough newness to inject, so they play with the lights and make that a big selling point. Then when the vehicle is completely redesigned and plenty of visual changes are made, they eliminate the LED's to save money. Kind of pathetic in my opinion to not include something that cost little and is just about standard everywhere else. Even more sad to have it one year then take it away later on. These types of moves have faded in recent times except with Toyota and Honda.
I think Honda has waken up, just look at the new Civic. Its ***** up different from the past generation that was widely panned for good reason, and it is back up selling well even if slightly behind the Corolla. The Accord isn't doing bad as well as always in second, so Toyota can't afford to cheap out anymore on the Camry especially when the sedan segment is hurting because of SUVs. Keep in mind that Toyota has had to fleet more vehicles and has more incentives to stay ahead, especially of Honda.
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