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Good for Lexus. But seriously, these are three year old vehicles being surveyed. Not much surprise that a Lexus will be tops after just three years. Would be more interesting if it were 15 old cars.....But JD needs to be relevant as new owners appeal to their propaganda.

 

https://lexusenthusiast.com/2017/02/...ability-study/

 

I remember as recently as the 2014 survey, Lexus was #1 with 68 problems per 100 vehicles vs Mercedes #2 at 104. Porsche btw was at 125 that year. I suspect the more and more technology and trick features they cram into these cars is partly contributing to the higher number of vehicles affected. The Industry Average was 133 to this years 156.

 

And see therein lies the big issue with J.D. Power. Nobody but J.D. Power really knows how to interpret the data that they are telling us. From what I understand, car brands pay J.D. Power for access to the survey information collected. Can J.D. Power really be impartial if they are collecting money? Now I don't have a huge issue with Consumers Reports reliability data, but they would get more street cred if they listed the data behind the info. For example, how many average miles are on Buick responses compared to lets say KIA or Hyundai? as for their reviews, they are complete garbage, they wait till all others have reviewed a car, then CR says this or that which is perfectly tailored to their audience and influenced by past reviews.

 

More impressive is where Hyundai stands. Honda been slipping I see

 

In real world Porsche may be as reliable but cost of running is higher, way higher. I've driven Porsche in the past.

 

Nope...

 

I have to disagree somewhat on this one.....and say Yep. Simply paying for access to J.D. Power's database does not necessarily constitute either an attempt to skewer the data or to offer the company a bribe to tempt them to change it. It's somewhat like the Federal Freedom of Information Act, where agencies have to, upon request, turn over non-classified data....but are allowed to charge you a fee for each document, as it costs money to print it. Consumer Reports, likewise, also charges a fee for those who subscribe to either the monthly paper-copies of the magazines or its on-line data.

 

Heck, look at Mercedes. That's surprising. BMW too, while Audi is near Volvo.

 

https://consumerist.com/2010/05/10/c...e-in-auto-ads/

I prefer CR

 

Mercedes is really surprised me, I was really nervous when I bought my first MB, but its reliability was surprisingly as good as Lexus that I have owned in the past.
After two years of owning it, I purchase another one.

 

These numbers are meaningless. Why? Because at 110 problems reported per 100 cars, that's 1.1 problems per car vs. 1.56 average.

so if you buy whatever an average car is, you have a slight chance more of having more than one problem. Is that really enough to matter? nope, didn't think so.

 

Depends on what those so-called "problems" are. They could be anything from "I don't like the way the shifter works" (sound familiar LOL)? to a wheel falling off the car because the lug nuts weren't tight enough. Power doesn't seem to break down the problems by type......Consumer Reports usually does.

 

Well Lexus has done it again with J D Power ranking Lexus for six years in a row #1 in dependability. In 2011 they were ranked #2, 2010 #4, 2009 #3, 2008 #1, and 2007 #2. Add to this #2 in the least expensive to maintain and we all are wise consumers.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...tudy/98239954/

http://twocents.lifehacker.com/the-c...ver-1781639773