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I've always wondered as to why the new Lexus LX never got the 4.0 v8 that has a twin Turbo like those heavenly powerplants in top Mercedes Benz?
The engine would do well in the Lexus LX 600.
Still on LX, why did they choose to drop the half tailgate since it served the vehi le well and it was a symbol of top luxury
Lexus has left so much $$$$ on the table by not making a RWD based SUV on the LS platform that competes with GLE / GLS / X5 / X7 / Q8. Even Genesis did GV80 and GV80 coupe.
The top executives in Japan are sleeping at the wheel and don’t care. Yet Toyota has a bunch of different trucks, CUVs and SUVs.
Lexus has left so much $$$$ on the table by not making a RWD based SUV on the LS platform that competes with GLE / GLS / X5 / X7 / Q8. Even Genesis did GV80 and GV80 coupe.
The top executives in Japan are sleeping at the wheel and don’t care. Yet Toyota has a bunch of different trucks, CUVs and SUVs.
A $100k Lexus is a hard sell any way you look at it. The Germans are willing to put out super low volume high powered V8tt engines just to destroy their competitors. Lexus will only offer the V6tt or the Tundra's iForceMax at best or the PHEV V6 from the TX. Lexus just doesnt have the wow factor to play in that segment. Perhaps if they electrified the V8tt from the upcoming whatever sports car, they will have a shot, but they wont do it.
A $100k Lexus is a hard sell any way you look at it. The Germans are willing to put out super low volume high powered V8tt engines just to destroy their competitors. Lexus will only offer the V6tt or the Tundra's iForceMax at best or the PHEV V6 from the TX. Lexus just doesnt have the wow factor to play in that segment. Perhaps if they electrified the V8tt from the upcoming whatever sports car, they will have a shot, but they wont do it.
I know the Bugatti is way out the price range, but its engine config may be the way of the future. A naturally aspirated large V8 with a hybrid drivetrain designed just to provide the off the line torque would be pretty nice to have in these vehicles. I think Toyota already had this with the LS600h, it would be interesting if they update it and bring back that setup.
A $100k Lexus is a hard sell any way you look at it. The Germans are willing to put out super low volume high powered V8tt engines just to destroy their competitors. Lexus will only offer the V6tt or the Tundra's iForceMax at best or the PHEV V6 from the TX. Lexus just doesnt have the wow factor to play in that segment. Perhaps if they electrified the V8tt from the upcoming whatever sports car, they will have a shot, but they wont do it.
It would not be $100k but be priced in line with GX. About $65k -95k.
They need a CAR based SUV on LS platform. It would appeal to the luxury/ performance SUV buyer rather than truck based offroad like GX.
It would not be $100k but be priced in line with GX. About $65k -95k.
They need a CAR based SUV on LS platform. It would appeal to the luxury/ performance SUV buyer rather than truck based offroad like GX.
Couldn't agree more. There is SO much money in that segment being gobbled up by the likes of the X5/7, Q7, GLE/GLS, and even Volvo and Genesis offerings, it's frankly shocking that Lexus doesn't want a piece of that action.
It shouldn't replace the GX--there's a niche there that they're uniquely positioned for, and have leaned even further into with the latest generation. But there's a huge addressable market for people who are way more concerned with on-road performance than off-road capabilities, which they're just outright pretending doesn't exist.
Lexus has left so much $$$$ on the table by not making a RWD based SUV on the LS platform that competes with GLE / GLS / X5 / X7 / Q8. Even Genesis did GV80 and GV80 coupe.
The top executives in Japan are sleeping at the wheel and don’t care. Yet Toyota has a bunch of different trucks, CUVs and SUVs.
They won't because it'll run into the same problem as the GS, which is that it will be utterly cannibalized by "lesser" vehicles like the RX and TX just like the ES did to the GS and now maybe even the LS. The LS platform packaging is woefully inefficient and that will translate to a crossover variant as well, so you will be buying a vehicle the length of a Range Rover but with the interior volume of an RX.
What's crazy is that Lexus can even offer a basic FWD-based turbo 4-cylinder crossover like the TX and still have people gobble it up even at $80K. There's no incentive to take any risks with a more niche bespoke expensive platform when they can crank out such a nice profit margin from what is essentially a reskinned Highlander.
They won't because it'll run into the same problem as the GS, which is that it will be utterly cannibalized by "lesser" vehicles like the RX and TX just like the ES did to the GS and now maybe even the LS. The LS platform packaging is woefully inefficient and that will translate to a crossover variant as well, so you will be buying a vehicle the length of a Range Rover but with the interior volume of an RX.
What's crazy is that Lexus can even offer a basic FWD-based turbo 4-cylinder crossover like the TX and still have people gobble it up even at $80K. There's no incentive to take any risks with a more niche bespoke expensive platform when they can crank out such a nice profit margin from what is essentially a reskinned Highlander.
There's a solid inverse relationship between how engaging a Lexus product is and how well it sells. LC and the F cars are probably near the bottom. ES, RX, NX are the hot sellers. At this point I'm convinced most Lexus buyers are actively offended by the thought of RWD.
At this point I'm convinced most Lexus buyers are actively offended by the thought of RWD.
It sounds silly but you may actually be right, because the Lexus RZ EV has a FWD variant even though Lexus could have easily shoved the motors in the rear because there are no packaging constraints with EV motors.
There's a solid inverse relationship between how engaging a Lexus product is and how well it sells. LC and the F cars are probably near the bottom. ES, RX, NX are the hot sellers. At this point I'm convinced most Lexus buyers are actively offended by the thought of RWD.
Don't you know RWD is unsafe?!?!?!?!? YOU CAN SPIN OUT
Lexus has left so much $$$$ on the table by not making a RWD based SUV on the LS platform that competes with GLE / GLS / X5 / X7 / Q8. Even Genesis did GV80 and GV80 coupe.
The top executives in Japan are sleeping at the wheel and don’t care. Yet Toyota has a bunch of different trucks, CUVs and SUVs.
I agree with the general consensus of this thread and would love a V8 in the LX.
But Lexus won't change because people keep buying whatever they put out.
They sold a hair under 7,000 LX600s last year in the US. They hadn't sold that many since 2008--first year of the 200 series. Execs see that and think they're knocking it out the park even though its partly due to the LC200 going away, I'm sure.
Speaking of the 200 series, the LC250 has now sold 3600 units in 2 months on sale. That's more than most ANNUAL LC200 sales.
They've now found a way to double LX sales, probably wind up with 10x Landcruiser sales, and maintain GX/4Runner sales.
They'll introduce that 750h or whatever next year and probably get up to 8 or 9k in sales. They do not care about Lexus enthusiasts.
ON THE OTHER HAND--all this success could mean they should give us a niche performance product. But I'm just a crazy dude on the internet
06-26-24, 11:01 AM
A twin Turbo 4.0 V8 in Lexus LX 600
