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Old 07-31-19, 11:09 AM
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For over a decade now, Buick has been a mostly Chinese brand that just happens to sell cars in the U.S., offering a much more varied lineup in the Middle Kingdom than back home on its native soil. One of the effects of this is that China is just about the only world market where Buick sedans sell in any great number. Now even that is changing as Chinese buyers turn from sedans to crossovers and SUVs.

Automotive News notes that just in 2019 Buick has dropped the LaCrosse sedan from its lineup, alongside the Cascada convertible. The last remaining cars in its lineup could be next, as Buick decides whether to drop the Regal Sportback and the Regal TourX wagon, both of which are produced at the Opel plant in Russelsheim, Germany. The problem with those two models is that GM doesn't even own Opel anymore -- it sold Opel to France's Peugeot Citroen (PSA) in 2017, so the next Regal (if there is a next Regal) will have to find a new home at some point. That location, for understandable reasons, is likely to be China.

What could that leave when it comes to Buick models in the U.S. in the brand's near future?

Basically, a lot of crossovers of different sizes.

The current Encore, Automotive News notes, is likely to continue unchanged until 2022, by which time the platform will be nearly a decade old. Next year the U.S. will receive a larger version of the Encore dubbed Encore GX that will be produced in South Korea for the U.S. market. The current-generation Buick Envision, currently produced in China, is expected to be redesigned in 2021. The larger Enclave crossover was redesigned in 2017 and has been doing well in the States.

And that's a snapshot of Buick's plans for the next five years.

One vehicle we haven't mentioned so far is an EV: Buick is expected to offer an electric car in 2022 or 2023, possibly named Enspire, just like the concept that was shown in Beijing in 2018; at this point you don't even have to guess what bodystyle it was. The Enspire concept promised a range of 370 miles, expected to be more common in four years than now, along with a luxurious interior.

You've noticed by now that all of the above-mentioned vehicles are crossovers, even the ones that haven't entered production yet. Does this mean that sedans and station wagons are on their way out?

If it turns out that way, it will be a logical evolution of Buick's model range in the U.S., which has been shifting gradually in this direction for over a decade. In fact, other automakers would have probably ditched sedans and not even bothered with the wagons years ago, but Buick actually took the step of introducing a new sedan and station wagon.

Where does that leave sedans among GM's luxury brands? There's still Cadillac, which, at the moment, has no shortage of sedans in its lineup. GM is counting on that brand to lure in younger buyers of luxury cars even as the U.S. market seems bent on proving Cadillac wrong.

A decade from now, in the year 2029, we'll probably look back at Buick's lineup at this point in time and say, "Wow, remember when Buick had a sedan and a wagon in its lineup?" Because that's not too dissimilar from the feeling we had back in 2009 when looking at all the cars (and brands that still existed) in 1999. The Buick lineup of 2029 will likely appear to be even more radically transformed than between 2009 and 2019 -- a time period that in the future may feel like the swan song of passenger cars.
https://autoweek.com/article/car-new...k-cars-us-near
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Old 07-31-19, 11:34 AM
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Buick cars look to be done. I can't imagine the Regal will live on much longer. It is just a changing time in the industry. LaCrosse is stll built in China. So is the Verona

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Very, very few will miss Buick.
One here.
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Well as the autoweek article suggests, the Regal and Cascada are Opel's and won't be renewed. That will leave them with the Encore, Envision, and Enclave SUVs. Don't know if the Encore GX will make it here, but the 2021 Chevy Trailblazer is based on it. I really like the Enspire EV concept, and hope they add it to their line-up
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Originally Posted by Joeb427
Very, very few will miss Buick.
One here.
buick as a whole isn't going away, just the sedans.

as the article says, even in china, where the sedans have done well, the public is moving to suvs.
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one thing, buick's utes all begin with 'e' (encore, envision, enclave), will the resurrect an EXISTING name for an electric, namely the Electra!? that would be cool.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
buick as a whole isn't going away, just the sedans.
Without the traditional Buick sedans (and especially the Lacrosse), it will not be a true Buick division any more. It will be simply nothing but a bunch of crossover vehicles wth a Buick tri-shield slapped on them. Heck, if they are going to do that, they might as well drop the whole division....the tri-shield will essentially be meaningless.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Without the traditional Buick sedans (and especially the Lacrosse), it will not be a true Buick division any more. It will be simply nothing but a bunch of crossover vehicles wth a Buick tri-shield slapped on them. Heck, if they are going to do that, they might as well drop the whole division....the tri-shield will essentially be meaningless.
fine by me, i don't care about brands.

the encore and envision are nice though, and the enclave could be great with a few improvements. but wouldn't both me if they became chevys or something.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
fine by me, i don't care about brands.

the encore and envision are nice though, and the enclave could be great with a few improvements. but wouldn't both me if they became chevys or something.
Ford is doing just fine without Mercury. GM could always just cut Buick and GMC and just leave Chevrolet and Cadillac
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Without the traditional Buick sedans (and especially the Lacrosse), it will not be a true Buick division any more. It will be simply nothing but a bunch of crossover vehicles wth a Buick tri-shield slapped on them. Heck, if they are going to do that, they might as well drop the whole division....the tri-shield will essentially be meaningless.
Brands come and go and they change all the time. I would be sad if the Buick brand was to go dark. There are not a lot of people who want sedans anymore in the Buick price point, these people want cross-overs which are not sedans, yet they are not SUVs. A Buick Enclave, for close to LaCrosse money is a more sensible and batter yet a more useful purchase than a big hulking sedan. Same powertrain too

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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Brands come and go and they change all the time. I would be sad if the Buick brand was to go dark. There are not a lot of people who want sedans anymore in the Buick price point, these people want cross-overs which are not sedans, yet they are no SUVs. A Buick Enclave, for close to LaCrosse money is a more sensible and useful purchase than a big hulking sedan. Same powertrain too
Nothing will kill a product more effectively than those in charge blindly adhering to what a "true" Buick (or whatever) is in the face of clear market shifts and trends.

To me, the only "true" Banana Republic store is one with a safari Jeep jutting out the front of it.
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Originally Posted by tex2670
Nothing will kill a product more effectively than those in charge blindly adhering to what a "true" Buick (or whatever) is in the face of clear market shifts and trends.

To me, the only "true" Banana Republic store is one with a safari Jeep jutting out the front of it.
Oh this is a fun game. The only 'true' Hot Topic store is one with a Emo cave entrance
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Originally Posted by tex2670

To me, the only "true" Banana Republic store is one with a safari Jeep jutting out the front of it.
Sounds like you would like being in Panama.
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Oh this is a fun game.
Marketing vehicles is not a game, though. High-level decisions can affect vehicle-choice (or non-choice) for many buyers.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Buick cars look to be done. I can't imagine the Regal will live on much longer. It is just a changing time in the industry. LaCrosse is stll built in China. So is the Verona
....Verano.

And, BTW, in the Chinese market, some versions of it are known as the Excelle.
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